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Diver43
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AR-15 Triggers
Diver43
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I know that we have discussed after market triggers before. My AR lower kit came with a really bad double stage trigger. Part of me said this is better than what the Army gave me for several years so I lived with it. A while back I purchased an after market trigger that I got installed with only minor difficulty and after shooting it the first time learned that I kind of liked a nice smooth single stage trigger on my AR. Can not give you a definite reason, just that I like how the gun shoots now.
What do you guys prefer? I know several on here shoot WAY more often than I and are much more accurate with your AR. What makes one more better than the other?
What do you guys prefer? I know several on here shoot WAY more often than I and are much more accurate with your AR. What makes one more better than the other?
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For the money, if you aren't going into a war zone, RRA will be my choice from hereon out. The Geissele, while a simpler design, is no better feel wise than the RRA.
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For a dedicated precision rifle, I'm fond of the Timney Drop in
This. I have four RRA NM triggers now. They are far and away the best value for the money.
Dad 5-31-13
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CMC
Geissele
The scariest trigger I have though, is a modified National Match trigger. That is the second scariest 2-Stage trigger I've ever fired. I have to be REALLY paying attention to find the second stage.
The scarriest I ever had was a Geissele I was testing. It was supposed to be a 2-Stage. I probably only found the second stage a handful of times. It was decidedly NOT designed for the gun I was testing it in. I gave it back.
Love at first sight.
The honeymoon was great except for the trigger was the worst I'd ever owned.
Ten miles of bad road. Gritty, long and frustrating.
Geissele G2S drop-in cured that. I learned to love the two-stage.
Second AR was DPMS Sportical I got so I could have something to abuse that I wasn't so much in love with.
After replacing the horrible trigger with another G2S I found out it was more accurate than the chrome-lined Sig and more fun to shoot.
Next I got an Adams Arms piston 5.56 and really love that one more than the first two.
Bad trigger replaced with Geissele SD-E and that is my most favorite trigger.
For me, two-stage is very fast to get on target and fast to get back on target.
It's like a rhythm or a dance when shooting diet soda cans at 50 to 100 yards. Cans laying on their sides with bottom towards firing position.
I've spent a lot more money on 5.56 ammo than I have on the guns and triggers.
At my age it's more fun than anything.
My latest is an Adams arms .308 piston and it's not as accurate as my bolt .308 but I enjoy it more than any other gun.
After putting a muzzle brake on it, it is fast.
Real fast.
With nice heavy Atlas bipod and muzzle brake turned to about 20 degrees before vertical, it no longer jumps to the right.
The trigger is light and clean from the factory and has just a little rolling creep which is extremely smooth.
I don't feel the need for a drop-in trigger for it yet.
Can pick them up fer 100 bucks and less.
http://shopruger.com/Ruger-Elite-452-AR-Trigger/productinfo/90461/
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"Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
I've said it before but Hiperfire triggers are the best design out there. I've tried some other nice triggers 3 gunners use and while great stuff, I still like the feel of the trigger shoe and the 30% extra hammer force I get with the lightest pull weight, 2.5 lbs. Two extra springs on a pivot point lighten the trigger pull and as the geometry changes, add force to the hammer.
I've never tried American Gold but they are supposed to be sweet but also north of 300 bucks.
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You are not alone. I have two aftermarket triggers, a JP Enterprises single stage (~$125), and a Geissele SSA-E (~$200). I generally prefer a single stage trigger, BUT, for precision shooting (ie. Bench rest) the SSA-E rules.
The JP Enterprises takes a LOT more effort/time setting it up, but has a (very slightly) shorter trigger reset. The Geissele is a true drop in (10 minute installation tops). The SSA-E first stage is so smooth, that it feels like you are just taking up slack... making the 2nd stage (~1.2lbs) feel lighter than it is (3.5 lbs total). The JP Enterprises single stage just breaks cleanly with no creep, minimal over travel, and a VERY short reset. Also ~3.5 lbs pull weight.
I'm thinking about trying a Timney or CMC next build.
Luis
ps. If someone else is doing the installation and fine tuning for free (like my good buddy did with this one :cool2:), I'd do another JP Enterprises trigger in a heartbeat. If *I* am doing the installation, I'll be buying a "drop in" trigger again.