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Oregon judge goes on anti-gun tirade from the bench: ‘Dump them in the ocean’

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Oregon judge goes on anti-gun tirade from the bench: ‘Dump them in the ocean’
‘Nobody’ should have a gun, not even ‘police’ or ‘security’ guards, he said

Calling them a “scourge of this country” that “no one should have,” a judge in Portland, Oregon, went on an anti-gun tirade during a sentencing hearing recently, The Oregonian newspaper reported on its website Wednesday.
Multnomah County Circuit Court Judge Kenneth Walkermade his remarks while sentencing drive-by shooter Marcell Lee Daniel Jr. on a murder charge.
“If I could, I would take all the guns in America, put them on big barges and go dump them in the ocean,” Judge Walker told Mr. Daniel, The Oregonian reported. “Nobody would have a gun. Not police, not security, not anybody. We should eliminate all of them. We could save 33,000 people a year if we didn’t have guns in this country.”
“They are a scourge of this country, and no one should have one as far as I’m concerned,” the judge — a former public criminal defense attorney — added later before insisting that was merely his personal opinion and that he would not seek to overturn gun rights from the bench.
“There’s no defense to guns. There’s just absolutely no reason to have them. But it is a right of people in this country to own and possess them, and I will not say anything to affect that right.”
According to BallotPedia.com, Judge Walker was appointed to the bench in February 2007 by then-Gov. Ted Kulongoski and was re-elected in 2014 to a term which expires on January 3, 2021.

Judge Kenneth Walker
Multnomah County Circuit Court Judge Ken Walker

Some judges have gone directly from high school, to college, to law school, to private practice, to the bench. This is not about one of those judges.

Judge Walker was born in 1951 in San Pedro, Calif.; his family moved to nearby Compton when he was six months old. His parents were from Mississippi. They had moved to California to raise their children in an environment that would offer more opportunity for African-Americans than was possible in the Deep South . What they didn't know what that Compton, and its neighbors Watts and South Central Los Angeles, were beginning to change almost as they arrived. In a picture from Judge Walker's fifth birthday party, the 10 neighborhood children attending were black, white and Asian; the pictures of his eighth birthday party show only black neighbors. His parents had unknowingly traded the segregation and poverty of the South for the segregation and poverty of the inner city.

The future judge first thought of becoming a lawyer while watching Perry Mason on TV. "He represented the underdog, and he made sure that all people were protected in court, even if they appeared to be guilty. I liked that," he says. But Walker also toyed with the idea of becoming a professional athlete. He played almost all sports as he grew up, but baseball was his favorite. At the age of eight he had a "decent curveball" and asked his father if he should become a professional baseball player or a lawyer. "A lawyer," his father said. "A pro ballplayer lasts maybe 5-10 years; you can be a lawyer for life."

Getting there, however, would come be a fairly circuitous route. Compton in the 1960s was becoming an increasingly tough neighborhood. At the end of his junior year in high school, several of his friends convinced him to try something different.

"They had gone into the Job Corps in Tongue Point, Oregon, then transferred to a high school equivalency program in Eugene," he says. "When they came back to Los Angeles to visit, they told me about a place where people were friendly, smiled at you, and trusted you. I was sold."

The Eugene program was full, however, so he went to a similar program in Pullman, Wash. He got his GED and finished his first semester of college at Washington State. The Culture shock of living in Pullman, however, finally hit. He returned to Los Angeles only to find that he was now "Living in a war zone," so he moved back to Eugene and enrolled at Lane Community College, where he was soon elected vice president of the student body.

The summer following his sophomore year he was elected vice president of the National Student Association. He moved to Washington, D.C., for a year and traveled around the country, working with student governments nationwide. Then it was back to Eugene for a BA from U of O in community service and public affairs. He moved to Portland looking for a good job, but all he could get was one as a night watchman, so after another year it was back to the U of O for law school.

His first job out of law school was with Marion-Polk Legal Aid in Salem. After 18 months he left to join the Portland office of Metropolitan Public Defender Services, where he remained for seven and a half years, representing clients in the full gamut of criminal cases. He also became reacquainted with Ernie Warren, another young black attorney he had first met in Salem. They started to talk about private practice and in 1990 left the public defenders to open the first African American law firm in Oregon.

They planned to move from criminal defense into civil practice after a few years. Warren did that, but Judge Walker couldn't shake his memories of Perry Mason. He realized that he truly enjoyed criminal defense and his ability to "help the little guy." So he stayed with it, building up a substantial retained practice while continuing to represent indigent defendants for more than 17 years. He also became more active in the community, raised a family and played in 15 national softball championships.

On February 28, Governor Ted Kulongoski appointed Judge Walker to Department 11, the seat Judge Linda Bergman held for 26 years. While he won't commit to that long a judicial career, he is certainly enjoying the challenge.

"I loved to try cases and fight for my client," Judge Walker says, "and being a judge feels like a natural transition from practice. Now I try to objectively look at the facts, read the cases, listen to the arguments and then try to get it right. To me, that is the essence of being in the legal profession."

That intellectual exercise, though, will always be tempered with an understanding of where he came from. "Sometimes when I look across the bench, I see that teenager from Compton. He will be held accountable if he's done something wrong, but if we can give him the right opportunity at the right time, he might surprise us all with what he really has."

Just like Judge Walker.

I really enjoyed knowing Ken in the late 1980s. He is a great guy who instead of pursuing the all to common pursuit of the almighty dollar as far as many talented attorneys do. He devoted his talent (as most Legal Aid attorneys working for peanuts do) to the people who desperately needed help but could not afford it. We are within one year of being the same age. I had no idea of where Ken grew up until I read his biography on the Oregon Bar Association web site. I enjoyed an Idyllic childhood in "green acres" while he grew up in Compton, CA. The epicenter of the film "Boyz in the Hood". When I was 12 years old I witnessed the "as seen on TV" version of the 1964 Watts riots. At the age of 13 Ken lived it. I understand how he could be compelled to voice his dream of all guns lying on the bottom of the sea when sentencing a young shooter found guilty of a fatal drive by shooting. I also dream of world peace and the end of man's violence toward man. I'm confident that Ken, as I do realize it is only a dream. He stated that it was his personal opinion and would not affect his court decisions. That seems impossible but if it could be done, I believe Ken could do it.


  • NNNN Posts: 25,236 Senior Member
    Oregon needs to pay more attention to potential judges before they elect them.
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Posts: 10,939 Senior Member
    My goodness! He's a genius!! That will totally work!!!

    Why stop there. Let's throw all of the heroin and meth in the ocean too! No more OD's!!

    All of the alcohol too...... No more DUI deaths!!

    Why hasn't anyone thought of this already!!!

    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • TeachTeach Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Want to bet he DIDN"T vote for Trump?
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    And baseball bats, golf clubs, etc that can be used to crack open someone's skull ...
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • tennmiketennmike Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    And feet. Lots of people get kicked to death, too. Throw all them nasty feets in the ocean, too. Side benefit
    no more unsightly toe jam! :tooth:
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  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Posts: 6,637 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    And feet. Lots of people get kicked to death, too. Throw all them nasty feets in the ocean, too. Side benefit
    no more unsightly toe jam! :tooth:

    Not to mention the money we'd save not having to buy shoes!
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • BigDanSBigDanS Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    As I am preparing to move from Miami, to Portland, I have noticed how different Portlandia is to the rest of the state. If it weren't for Portland it would be a red state. They even have open carry. I hope we live a way outside of the city.

    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Hey, what if they dumped all the gun hating judges into the ocean for shark bait? Would the problem go away? :jester:
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
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  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Posts: 2,035 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    Hey, what if they dumped all the gun hating judges into the ocean for shark bait? Would the problem go away? :jester:

    As they say Chief ...that'd be a good start.
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,282 Senior Member
    Oregon is the next California.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,282 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    Hey, what if they dumped all the gun hating judges into the ocean for shark bait? Would the problem go away? :jester:

    Nope. The sharks wouldn't touch them, "Professional Courtesy"!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • snake284snake284 Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    And feet. Lots of people get kicked to death, too. Throw all them nasty feets in the ocean, too. Side benefit
    no more unsightly toe jam! :tooth:

    Oh No! You'd kill all the FISH!!!


    Seriously, they actually let this guy out on the streets?

    Much less practice Law? Only somewhere like Oregon is this clown able to be declared sane.

    If they would have done this a hundred years ago we'd all be speaking either German or Japanese by now.

    If we'd done this 175 years ago this clown would be a slave today. He really thinks things through doesn't he? and he thinks he knows more than Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Etc.

    I think he needs Firing!!!

    After reading this I'm thinking of changing my last Name!
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • horselipshorselips Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    K-12 education has been increasingly dumbed-down for decades. Higher education has been corrupted with grade inflation, pass-fail nonsense, and an increasingly polarized and radicalized faculty. Is it really any wonder that our ever-decreasing standards would eventually find its way into the judiciary? Where do bona-fide loons like Sotomayor and Kagan come from? Why, they're promoted from the benches of the lower courts, of course. We have met the enemy, and he is us.
  • john9001john9001 Posts: 668 Senior Member
    dump liberal judges in the ocean.
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