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Here’s What U.S. Elections Would Look Like WITHOUT The Electoral College

NomadacNomadac Senior MemberPosts: 902 Senior Member
Here’s What U.S. Elections Would Look Like WITHOUT The Electoral College.
http://www.angrypatriotmovement.com/elect-without-electoral-college/

The Electoral College was created for two reasons. The first purpose was to create a buffer between population and the selection of a President. The second as part of the structure of the government that gave extra power to the smaller states.

This letter in the WSJ in reference to Hillary losing, it is short and to the point.

“Flyover to coasts. “Can you hear me now?” by the writer, Somers, N.Y.

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  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,933 Senior Member
    I saw the map a couple of days ago. Although it is referenced it is missing from the link.
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,721 Senior Member
    Nomadac wrote: »
    Here’s What U.S. Elections Would Look Like WITHOUT The Electoral College.

    The Electoral College was created for two reasons. The first purpose was to create a buffer between population and the selection of a President. The second as part of the structure of the government that gave extra power to the smaller states.

    You are preaching to the choir.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,867 Senior Member
    Frankly if states want more electoral power maybe they should build a better economy and make themselves more attractive for people to move there. There is freedom of movement in this country so states with low population only have themselves to blame that very few people actually want to live there.
    50% of the voting power in nearly all the states are in the high-concentration liberal cities. If you compare the electoral map by county in the entire nation you will see that the "red" rural geographical areas are about 90% of the total area of the country. Nearly all of the "blue" metro areas of the country were the high population democrat cities, and look how close the vote was. That is the reason for the electoral college....cities VS. rural. The few exceptions are Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts and Connecticut...nearly all "blue" states.

    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Don't most, if not all of these urban areas leech water, food, and electric power from the rural areas that surround them? Pull the plug, turn off the spigot, and starve 'em out!
    Jerry
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,867 Senior Member
    And why do you think so many people choose to live in cities and so few people live in rural areas?

    Convenience and jobs probably. Personally, I think city living blows.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    And why do you think so many people choose to live in cities and so few people live in rural areas?

    They are mentally and physically unfit to live in a rural setting. Period. End of story.
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  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,721 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    They are mentally and physically unfit to live in a rural setting. Period. End of story.


    I live in both, just what are you saying?
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    They are mentally and physically unfit to live in a rural setting. Period. End of story.

    Yep, they would starve to death and even if they could eek out some kind of living, they'd have to have a good understanding country boy next door neighbor to prime their water pump or help them clean out their septic tank. Most of these people would be lost trying to raise chickens, or milk a cow. Can you imagine watching one of em butchering a hog or a steer? They'd be lost.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    There you go again with your tables and statistics. Who gives a crap? When you went on your "discover yourself" tour, did you explore all of the congested, desirable urban areas, or did you travel around to all of the undesirable rural areas?
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,867 Senior Member
    His chart is not even current. 1999 is the last year entered, and 17 years is a long time in statistical charts.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    His chart is not even current. 1999 is the last year entered, and 17 years is a long time in statistical charts.

    That's what's annoying about his tossing around data and statistics to make an erroneous point. He seems to think that everyone here is too stupid to catch it.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,692 Senior Member
    And why do you think so many people choose to live in cities and so few people live in rural areas?

    Because PT Barnum was right?
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • TexShotTexShot New Member Posts: 7 New Member
    I thought this was an interesting take on the electoral college. It's a 7 minute vid. Regarding the urbinization trend, he argues that the electoral college was set up to combat city-states, which are not new, as America has become less and less agrarian.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHCPaJNW4eg

    Thoughts?
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Aren't most sheep kept in flocks because they're too stupid to survive on their own? Maybe that's a Baaaaaaad view of city folks, but DILLIGAF?
    Jerry
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    I live in both, just what are you saying?

    I'm saying that the clear majority of people who are born, grew up, and are living in big cities are totally and wholly ill equipped to live in a rural setting, and would not want to in any case. There are exceptions, but they ARE NOT the rule, and you know that.

    If you were not born in a city of well over 1,000,000 people, grew up there, and have lived your WHOLE LIFE there, then you're being disingenuous.

    If you need an example, then I will supply one. Three farms of approximately one quarter section each, one south of me and two north of me, were cut up into 'baby farms' of slightly over 5 acres each. That slightly over 5 acres size is important; seller does NOT have to disclose flood plain and other critical info here because of that. Had folks from several big towns, and some FL folks seeking to escape the hurricanes, buy these 5+ acre plots for at least 3X actual worth; auctions are a lousy way to buy property, and PT Barnum was right.

    About the land here; some is suitable for homes, and a lot is not. The 'city folk' didn't do their homework. They went all PMS when they found out that there was no public utility water and sewer hookup and they'd have to get a well drilled and put in a septic tank. Then many found out that the soil was unsuitable for septic tanks due to lack of ability for septic tank and lines to 'perk' requiring a HUGE expenditure in septic tank field lines to make up for that defect. Then they found out that just because there was a creek flowing through the property that drilling a well was not going to be a shallow well proposition; 300 feet is the norm providing you can hit a stream big enough to supply your needs.

    BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!!!!!!!!!!! I mentioned the creek flowing through the property. The creek bottom is fairly flat on both sides. Guess where the houses and single and double wides were put. Guess what the creek does 3-5 times per year during heavy rains. Guess who pitched another PMS hissy conniption fit and wanted the county government to 'DO SOMETHING' about the multiple annual floodings of their property and being in a 'house boat' occasionally.

    Did any of them ask the locals about problems? A few. Did they listen to what they were told and act accordingly? Very few; actually practically none. We were just ignorant country rubes trying to discourage them, in the majority of their STATED opinions.

    So, that is why I said what I said, and stand by it. And I laugh my butt off every time it rains for a long time and the creek floods, their septic tank backs up due to the flooding, and their driveway is 2 feet under water.

    Prologue: finally got public utility potable water run through, and it has enough chlorine added to gag a buzzard off a gut wagon on any given day. There's been a few blondes with funny colored hair occasionally because of it which required some expensive water treatment equipment for those that could afford it. Most went back to the well water for everything except clothes washing being that there was no need to buy chlorine bleach for the white clothes, but the color clothes suffer bleaching out over time. Funny, and true!
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    "I was in Hot Springs Arkansas recently, and watched dumb rednecks selling WATER to a bunch of smart Yankees!" "Brother Dave" Gardner, circa 1960. If Dave was alive today, he would have enough material for a whole series of new comedy routines!
    :rotflmao:
    Jerry
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Brother Dave Gardner is a national treasure for sure! :tooth:
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
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