Doe with a .454 Casull.

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 20,740 Senior Member
It was a nice cool and overcast afternoon yesterday, so I headed over to my friends to take another management doe. Setting up in a box blind on another location of the ranch, I had my 12" MGM barreled Encore in .358 Win for the longer shots and my 5" barreled Ruger .454 Casull for the close-up opportunities.

DSCN4191_zpsxet7m9ni.jpg

DSCN4199_zpslo4cl2hx.jpg

Turned out to be a much slower evening than I would have expected with the weather as it was. Nothing much got to moving until around 4 o'clock when two bucks, a yearling, and a trio of axis showed up at the feeder.

454%20Casull%20Toklat%20Doe%2012-31-16%204_zpsukmhmo6a.jpg

Te axis only hung around a short while and wandered off. Leaving the bucks and the yearling.

454%20Casull%20Toklat%20Doe%2012-31-16%209_zpsfvuzjybn.jpg

Then, down the sendaro to the south............behind the Chilean Deer...........came this monster!

454%20Casull%20Toklat%20Doe%2012-31-16%2021_zpsszkxwggf.jpg

454%20Casull%20Toklat%20Doe%2012-31-16%2024_zpsxen2ohjb.jpg

Yeah..........wow. He hung around the rest of the evening. Chasing does in and out of the brush, making scrapes along the sendaro, and bedding down right in the middle so he could watch up and down the lane. Anytime a doe would cross the sendaro, he would get up and run over to her. Checking to see if she was in season or not.

Eventually, two mature does came out by the feeder along with several yearlings. The meandered and fed over by the feeder. Well within range of the Encore Pistol, but I wanted to wait and see if something would be enticed by the corn we'd put out closer to the blind and within range of the Casull. I'd use the .358 Win if it looked like nothing would be coming closer before they left. Keeping an eye on the two does as they moved around, one eventually came to the 75 yard mark and fed. But, she just never gave me a comfortable angle with the 2x scope on the Casull and I decided to be patient.

Eventually, the closer (and larger) doe wandered off into the brush. Leaving the lighter colored doe behind. I began to question myself as to whether I'd screwed up passing on the larger doe with either of the guns. But, I still had hope and the lighter doe was still around and within range of the Encore. I waited some more.

After eating all the corn under the feeder, the band of deer began following the "crumb trail" of corn towards the blind. The lighter doe among them. She eventually worked her way to about 40 yards and I was ready to shoot, when I saw the darker doe come back out of the brush and make her way over to the others. Holding fire again, I waited.

Through all the second guessing........the patience finally paid off.........and at 49 yards........I put a 250gr Hornady XTP through her on side shoulder and dropped her on the spot.

Video:

http://vid26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/lovinmycaitlynn/Hunting/DSCN4195_zps7m8zfqdn.mp4

The blast of that Casull inside the blind was like a NFDD going off in a broom closet! Dust, fabric, and sundry particles blew out the open windows like an M80 in a mailbox!

"Good Lord", my friend said. "What IS that thing?!?"

Hehehehehe...........

It's a definitive Beast.

DSCN4197%20-%20Copy_zpsrtsofbj3.jpg

You can see the white belly of the doe where she fell in the left side of the open window.

We gathered our things and made our way over to the doe. Another successful outing.

454%20Casull%20Toklat%20Doe%2012-31-16%2027%20-%20Copy_zpsxlhkp85u.jpg

After loading the doe, we took a drive around the ranch in the light of the setting sun. Watching deer and generally having a good time.

454%20Casull%20Toklat%20Doe%2012-31-16%2042_zpsi9oneal9.jpg

Another good day in God's creation.

454%20Casull%20Toklat%20Doe%2012-31-16%2045_zps8gbwyy9s.jpg
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
«1

Replies

  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 11,007 Senior Member
    I get a black X, dangit. Again, that is beyond cool you get to see that many whitetails, much less multiple species in one evening:up:
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,740 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    I get a black X, dangit. Again, that is beyond cool you get to see that many whitetails, much less multiple species in one evening:up:


    A black "X" for what?
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 11,007 Senior Member
    The video link.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,740 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    The video link.


    Maybe when you get home?
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    Nice sunset!
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 11,007 Senior Member
    I am home, no clue why my computer is unhappy with it.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,740 Senior Member
    Science!

    Gun: 5in Ruger .454 Casull "Toklat"
    Bullet: 250gr Hornady XTP
    Muzzle Velocity: 1,510 fps
    Distance: 49 yards
    Angle: Quartering Away
    Impact Velocity: 1,316 fps (est)
    Distance Traveled: 0

    Entrance:

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%201_zpsyqrbl4vk.jpg

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%204_zpsuamxwg2i.jpg

    The bullet passed through and broke the on side scapula and 1 rib. Sending bone fragments into the thoracic cavity and lungs.

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%205_zpsubhhij3t.jpg

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%206_zpsqyfoqsdg.jpg

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%207_zpsgoepbypg.jpg

    Severe hemorrhaging was discovered in the chest cavity.

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%208_zps8fs1prti.jpg

    The bullet passed through the bottom of the spine and damaged the top of the lungs/esophagus/wind pipe.

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%209_zpsflozh19s.jpg

    Entrance to Lungs:

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%2010_zpsveftq7ew.jpg

    Exit:

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%2011_zpsbjzzpzdb.jpg

    Damage to Spine:

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%2012_zps9cycl7fl.jpg

    Exit Under Shoulder:

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%2014_zpspog8p8t4.jpg

    Exit in front of Shoulder:

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%2013_zpssfshuern.jpg

    454%20Casull%20with%20250gr%20XTP%20%2049%20yards%2012-30-16%202_zpspauynhh4.jpg

    Not traveling overly fast from the short barrel, the bullet still induced severe damage to the bone and soft tissue of the doe. For comparison, I push this bullet out of my two .45 Colt Lever Guns at 1,733 fps (16") and 1,815 fps (24") on up to 2,388 fps from my .460 S&W. On the slower side, I run this same bullet at 1,315 fps from my 4" Redhawk and 1,367 fps from my 6" SB Bisley. Regardless the velocity, it has worked well on deer and pigs from 5 yards to past 120 yards as I suspect it should.

    I continue to be pleased with it's performance for my application and also pleased with the performance of the short Casull.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    Thanks again for a great writeup.
    It's because I hate Trump.
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 4,566 Senior Member
    Nice going, as always a great story and science.

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    It looks like it impacted quite a bit of spine and still continued to do damage.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,100 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Funny watching the video. The deer who saw her drop got out of dodge. The two young bucks in the foreground hardly moved. Till they turned and looked her way.
    "Duuuuude, what was that noise?"
    " I dunno man, Im just eating some corn"
    "Wait, where's Ethel?"
    " Oh crap dude! Ethel is down! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE BRO! The faceless dude is in the box!"

    That made me laugh!
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,100 Senior Member
    Good shooting my friend!
    Next time we are together, I want to meet this young man you keep hanging around:jester:
    He seems like a good soul.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,740 Senior Member
    early wrote: »
    It looks like it impacted quite a bit of spine and still continued to do damage.

    Yeah, it took a lot of bone between the scapula and spine and kept on trucking.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,467 Senior Member
    Fantastic performance from that setup! I expect it's quite satisfying when a plan comes together like that.
    Knowledge is essential to living freely and fully; understanding gives knowledge purpose and strength; wisdom is combining the two and applying them appropriately in words and actions.
  • Hondo341Hondo341 Member Posts: 448 Member
    Zee, that was a wonderful write-up. I know the universe is still in order when you are killing stuff. Nice shooting oh-faceless-one.
    "People are responsible to play a role in their own safety." Sheriff David Clarke 2016
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,982 Senior Member
    Nice shot
    A Veteran is someone that served in the Military, it does not matter where they served.
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    NFDD?

    The closest I have come to that kind of noise was firing a .357 prone in the bed of my pickup. I had been shooting a rifle and the barrel stuck out past the bed sides. I fired two shots and doubled up on ears fired the last four and was done.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,740 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 wrote: »
    Fantastic performance from that setup! I expect it's quite satisfying when a plan comes together like that.


    Yes. I kept wondering if I was making the right decision by waiting. Turns out, I did.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,740 Senior Member
    Hondo341 wrote: »
    Zee, that was a wonderful write-up. I know the universe is still in order when you are killing stuff. Nice shooting oh-faceless-one.


    Thank you, Sir.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,740 Senior Member
    NFDD?

    Noise/Flash Diversionary Device

    Or

    Flash Bang

    Really Loud.........Really Bright.......Quite Concussive
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 7,077 Senior Member
    "Severe hemorrhaging was discovered in the chest cavity"

    Ya think?:tooth:

    With the various organs/structures taken out, that was - what? - three kill shots for the price of one? Four?

    That'll do!
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,789 Senior Member
    jaywapti wrote: »
    Nice going, as always a great story and science.

    JAY

    Yep - as always! Great pix too - although I still don't get how a guy with no face can take such great photographs! :tooth:

    A friend of mine once took a buck with a 454 at point blank range. A 454 Chevy, that is!

    I had to lookup NFDD as well, now that I know its a flash-bang, can I hang out with the cool kids? :uhm:
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,509 Senior Member
    Excellent write up, and pics, as always.

    Kinda making me want a Toklat, again.
    I gotta get the Bisley, first.

    454 Casull is an awesome cartridge.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,740 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    "Severe hemorrhaging was discovered in the chest cavity"

    Ya think?:tooth:

    With the various organs/structures taken out, that was - what? - three kill shots for the price of one? Four?

    That'll do!


    It was thorough. :jester:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,740 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    I had to lookup NFDD as well, now that I know its a flash-bang, can I hang out with the cool kids? :uhm:

    Nope. It's the short bus for you and the rest of us.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,740 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    I gotta get the Bisley, first.

    454 Casull is an awesome cartridge.

    Dude.........still? How many links did I send you?!? And you STILL don't have it?
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,789 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Dude.........still? How many links did I send you?!? And you STILL don't have it?

    He's waiting for you to buy it and deliver it to him... :tooth:
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 8,727 Senior Member
    Once again, most Excellent job, on all accounts. Goes to prove, knowledge, skill, and patience pay off.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Nope. It's the short bus for you and the rest of us.

    I wanna drive.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,947 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Nope. It's the short bus for you and the rest of us.
    I wanna drive.
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


Sign In or Register to comment.
Magazine Cover

GET THE MAGAZINE Subscribe & Save

Temporary Price Reduction

SUBSCRIBE NOW

Give a Gift   |   Subscriber Services

PREVIEW THIS MONTH'S ISSUE

GET THE NEWSLETTER Join the List and Never Miss a Thing.

Get the top Guns & Ammo stories delivered right to your inbox every week.