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redshockredshock New MemberPosts: 18 New Member
Greetings, I am a first timer. I have a Kimber 22.250 w/1-14 twist and 26' barrel. it will be one of my prairie dog guns. I would like some suggestions for ammo loads, factory and hand loads. I would like to shoot a lighter bullet, 35-45 grains.
your comments will be appreciated.
Thank you, Mike
" It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
Edmond Burke
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,890 Senior Member
    Welcome aboard
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,427 Senior Member
    redshock wrote: »
    Greetings, I am a first timer. I have a Kimber 22.250 w/1-14 twist and 26' barrel. it will be one of my prairie dog guns. I would like some suggestions for ammo loads, factory and hand loads. I would like to shoot a lighter bullet, 35-45 grains.
    your comments will be appreciated.
    Thank you, Mike

    There's several Prairie Dog Hunters on here that can advise you better than me, but I have a 1:14 twist .22-250. It would depend on the ranges you will shoot. I'm thinking if you're shooting at them 400 + yards you need a heavier bullet like a 52 grain Speer HPBT Varmint Bullet running 3600-3800 FPS out the Muzzle or something like it.

    Dan Johnson who used to be our leader on here told me once he used to use the Speers but moved up to the Nosler BT because it expanded better or faster. I've never shot prairie dogs so I'm no expert, but the Speer 52 grain was very accurate and Fast!
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,808 Senior Member
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    Many years ago I had a Rem BDL 22-250. My Dad had a handload using 55gr bullets now lost to memory. When I tried the Remington factory loads of the same bullet weight they shot exactly the same (very well.) I bet with modern ammo and components your rifle will be very accurate without requiring long travel to get there.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,427 Senior Member
    This Hodgdon Chart is a very good tool. I ran several loads I'm familiar with through it and it is spot on with all loads I'm familiar. I noticed one thing, when I ran a 70 grain bullet, it recommended a Speer 70 grain Semi Spitzer like I've used for years. The 1:14 twist rate is too slow for a 70 grain Spitzer and the Speer bullet being a Semi Spitzer it will stabilize. That's a great bullet for deer, and it's good for a couple hundred yards all day long.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • redshockredshock New Member Posts: 18 New Member
    I appreciate your input.
    Thanks,Mike
    " It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
    Edmond Burke
  • redshockredshock New Member Posts: 18 New Member
    I am thinking along those same lines. Thanks for your response.
    Mike
    " It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
    Edmond Burke
  • redshockredshock New Member Posts: 18 New Member
    good information and I appreciate it. With the 1-14 twist i'll probably stay under 65 grains.
    Thanks, Miike
    " It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
    Edmond Burke
  • redshockredshock New Member Posts: 18 New Member
    Thanks
    " It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
    Edmond Burke
  • redshockredshock New Member Posts: 18 New Member
    Will do, thanks.
    Mike
    " It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
    Edmond Burke
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 4,981 Senior Member
    Welcome , Hunted dogs for many years, favorite load was 36.5 gr IMR 4895, 55 gr Sierra SBT , Rem. cases, Fed 210M primers, chroned 3822 fps from 26" bbl.

    As with any load start at least 10% lower.

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,419 Senior Member
    Hornady makes a 52 grain BTHP bullet designed specifcally for a 1:14 twist...#2249 IIRC....I had great results with that bullet over 38.5 grains of Varget.....
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,405 Senior Member
    redshock wrote: »
    Greetings, I am a first timer. I have a Kimber 22.250 w/1-14 twist and 26' barrel. it will be one of my prairie dog guns. I would like some suggestions for ammo loads, factory and hand loads. I would like to shoot a lighter bullet, 35-45 grains.
    your comments will be appreciated.
    Thank you, Mike

    Hey, SixGun.....time for you to step up to the plate.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • redshockredshock New Member Posts: 18 New Member
    Jay, where you using a 1-14 twist with that load?
    Mike
    " It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
    Edmond Burke
  • redshockredshock New Member Posts: 18 New Member
    Great info., thanks.
    Mike
    " It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
    Edmond Burke
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Linefinder wrote: »
    Hey, SixGun.....time for you to step up to the plate.

    Mike

    It's been a long time since I looked at my loads for .22-250 Rem. Since I haven't had to load it in volume for a while, I'm still on the tail end of a box of 100 that has been there for over a year.

    Load data I'm showing:

    - 55 gr. Hornady V-Max (a little heavier than requested)
    - 38.0 gr. Ramshot Big Game
    - Winchester brass
    - Winchester WLR primer
    - Bullets seated about .010 off the lands

    Getting 3,801 fps and .283" 4-shot group at 100 yards out of a 1:14" twist Lilja 3-groove custom barrel.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 4,981 Senior Member
    redshock wrote: »
    Jay, where you using a 1-14 twist with that load?
    Mike

    Yes Win. M-70s, Please note this is over the max that Sierra listed for that bullet.

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • redshockredshock New Member Posts: 18 New Member
    Thank you I will try it. I'll hope to get close to your group.
    Thanks, Mike
    " It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
    Edmond Burke
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,405 Senior Member
    Just a thought....I've worn out a few barrels on pdogs...

    The .22-250 is pretty overbore for a .22. To get the sweet spot speed from 35-45 grain bullets, you're going to be pushing a shovelful of powder down the bore. Barrel life won't be long, especially when shooting colony varmints.

    A heavier projectile with a lighter powder charge will likely serve your needs and save considerable life. Bullets don't wear out barrels...powder does.

    Just a thought.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • redshockredshock New Member Posts: 18 New Member
    Thank you, I appreciate the good info..
    Mike
    " It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
    Edmond Burke
  • redshockredshock New Member Posts: 18 New Member
    Do you have a suggestion for a load for the 1-14 twist and 26 inch barrel? I shot some factory stuff today and it was not acceptable.
    Thanks,Mike
    " It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
    Edmond Burke
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,427 Senior Member
    redshock wrote: »
    Do you have a suggestion for a load for the 1-14 twist and 26 inch barrel? I shot some factory stuff today and it was not acceptable.
    Thanks,Mike

    What do you mean by it wasn't acceptable? You mean group size? If so, try a different brand and/or bullet weight. If your factory ammo was with heavier bullets your 1:14 twist rate may not be tight enough to stabilize the heavier bullet. 55 grain bullets should stabilize well. Don't give up with one bullet. Try another.

    The .22-250, being the hot rod that it is, was fitted with a slow twist to prevent over stabilizing small varmint bullets. When it was first made a legitimate cartridge, or factory ammo and guns were made for it by main stream gun and ammo makers, it was thought of as a fast, longer range varmint rifle. So it was designed around bullets from 40 to 55 grain, thus the 1:14 twist. So don't be surprised that with your 1:14 twist barrel, that you're limited to these lighter bullets. I've only shot 40 grain bullets once in mine, but I have my doubts they would over stabilize in a 1:9. I would like to put a tighter twist barrel on mine, maybe a 1:9, which would allow me to shoot anything in the 70 grain range like 70-75 grains which is as heavy as I care to shoot in it. Anything heavier you pay a price in velocity loss down range. BC will only get you so far. There are heavier bullets but I think they're mainly for target shooting. But for a part time varmint-part time deer rifle I believe a 1:9 twist is all I should need. Up til now anytime I used mine for deer, I used Speer 70 grain semi Spitzers which stabilize great in my gun. They're a little bit shorter than the same weight full Spitzer and stabilize fine in my 1:14 twist barrel.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • redshockredshock New Member Posts: 18 New Member
    Great information and I appreciate it. when I said it was unacceptable I was referring to the bullet group. I'll keep trying different ammos, weights etc. I'll use this rifle for prairie dogs and an occasional coyote. My other varminters are the .204 and .223. My hope is to reach out a little further with 22.250. Thanks again for your info. Mike
    " It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
    Edmond Burke
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,427 Senior Member
    redshock wrote: »
    Great information and I appreciate it. when I said it was unacceptable I was referring to the bullet group. I'll keep trying different ammos, weights etc. I'll use this rifle for prairie dogs and an occasional coyote. My other varminters are the .204 and .223. My hope is to reach out a little further with 22.250. Thanks again for your info. Mike

    :up: You got it Bro! Just keep working with it. The .22-250, in my opinion is a great chambering able to reach out there. As I said in my posts I'd prefer a tighter twist rate barrel, but with bullets up to 55-60 grains it will kill all the PDs and Coyotes you can haul off in an 18 Wheeler. And it is, like most .22 CFs, very accurate.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,808 Senior Member
    Here's a suggestion, Hornady 50gr V-max. Either in factory or hand loads
    They've been quite accurate in every 223 I've tried them in and come in factory ammo as well
    http://www.hornady.com/store/22-250-Rem-50-gr-V-MAX/

    and they load it with the 40gr also
    http://www.hornady.com/store/22-250-Rem-40-gr-V-MAX/

    edited to add: MidwayUSA has it on sale currently for $19.79/box for the either
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Unless those lightweight bullets have been redesigned pretty recently, they were designed for pretty sedate velocities like the .218 Bee, .22 Hornet, etc. The jacket is too thin to handle the velocities a .22-250 is capable of achieving, and the bullet will simply disentigrate at about the 40-50 yard point due to the jacket separating from the lead core. A friend tried pushing the envelope with 40 grain Hornet bullets in his .22-250, and he never got on paper at 100 yards. At 50, there were tiny pinprick holes in the target like a shotgun pattern, no .22 caliber holes at all.
    Jerry
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,808 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Unless those lightweight bullets have been redesigned pretty recently, they were designed for pretty sedate velocities like the .218 Bee, .22 Hornet, etc. The jacket is too thin to handle the velocities a .22-250 is capable of achieving, and the bullet will simply disentigrate at about the 40-50 yard point due to the jacket separating from the lead core. A friend tried pushing the envelope with 40 grain Hornet bullets in his .22-250, and he never got on paper at 100 yards. At 50, there were tiny pinprick holes in the target like a shotgun pattern, no .22 caliber holes at all.
    Jerry
    Just a hunch, but I suspect Hornady has fired a round or two of their factory ammo :uhm:
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • redshockredshock New Member Posts: 18 New Member
    Thanks for the input. I too would probably prefer a tighter twist probably but I am going to make this one my mission.
    Have a good one, Mike
    " It takes only a few good men to do nothing for evil to prevail "
    Edmond Burke
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,427 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Unless those lightweight bullets have been redesigned pretty recently, they were designed for pretty sedate velocities like the .218 Bee, .22 Hornet, etc. The jacket is too thin to handle the velocities a .22-250 is capable of achieving, and the bullet will simply disentigrate at about the 40-50 yard point due to the jacket separating from the lead core. A friend tried pushing the envelope with 40 grain Hornet bullets in his .22-250, and he never got on paper at 100 yards. At 50, there were tiny pinprick holes in the target like a shotgun pattern, no .22 caliber holes at all.
    Jerry

    Winchester makes a White Box round in 40 grains for the .22-250. It pushes it around 4000 FPS out the muzzle and they group decent at 100 yards. But these are purpose built bullets and they don't come apart. But then again they probably don't come apart well in an animal. All I did was punch paper with them. I bought one box of 50 but never went there again. I still have a couple left.

    I mainly shoot 52 grain BTHPs out of mine that I hand load. They are accurate and Scream at or over 3800 FPS. These bullets have killed at least one deer I know of. Not by me but a friend. He said he shot it in the throat facing him and it almost decapitated the deer.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Unless those lightweight bullets have been redesigned pretty recently, they were designed for pretty sedate velocities like the .218 Bee, .22 Hornet, etc. The jacket is too thin to handle the velocities a .22-250 is capable of achieving, and the bullet will simply disentigrate at about the 40-50 yard point due to the jacket separating from the lead core. A friend tried pushing the envelope with 40 grain Hornet bullets in his .22-250, and he never got on paper at 100 yards. At 50, there were tiny pinprick holes in the target like a shotgun pattern, no .22 caliber holes at all.
    Jerry
    He should be okay with the lighter V-maxes. Just for kicks, I loaded up some of the 40 grainers with my .22-250 just to see what a max velocity load would hit over a chrono. If memory serves me right, I was able to break 4,100 fps and still have the bullets hold up to hit paper at 100 yards. That was DEFINITELY a proof of concept affair limited to a handful of shots. One could potentially see barrel life measured in the "hundreds of rounds fired" if they make that load a permanent fixture in a .22-250 Rem.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
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