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Center Axis Relock?

http://www.pointshooting.com/1acar.htm
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/can-center-axis-relock-make-faster-safer-accurate/
I've been seeing more about this pistol technique popping up online, probably at least in part due to its use in the recent "John Wick" sequel. In theory it seems to have some merit, especially in confined quarters, but (as one of the articles states) may not be the best option for general use. Unfortunately, I don't have access to a range that would be okay with me basically monkeying around with my stance (particularly with rapid fire) just to see what it's like.
What sayeth the boards?
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/can-center-axis-relock-make-faster-safer-accurate/
I've been seeing more about this pistol technique popping up online, probably at least in part due to its use in the recent "John Wick" sequel. In theory it seems to have some merit, especially in confined quarters, but (as one of the articles states) may not be the best option for general use. Unfortunately, I don't have access to a range that would be okay with me basically monkeying around with my stance (particularly with rapid fire) just to see what it's like.
What sayeth the boards?
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"Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
"Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
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I always practice a magazine or two of "point shooting" before leaving the range. You do NOT need sights for 3-5 yd combat shooting. Especially if the goal is multiple shots in minimal time. Just like throwing a rock, learning to point shoot is nothing more than practicing a reflex.
Luis
- George Orwell
I realize that he put the word 'locking' in quotes, indicating that the meaning of the word in the context of this sentence is not literal, but still, I don't see how one can 'lock' a position in place using arms bent at the joints and muscles. Muscles are entirely dependent upon a person's will to use them, and their relative strength as applied against opposing force; as such, they cannot be 'locked'. Joints can lock, but not muscles...
I would like to see this demonstrated in live action, to see its proper application.
:that:
That's what I vote for. Another choice, great Ideas.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
To me, especially now as a former LEO, skin it and shoot if you're justified. If you have time to acquire a stance, go for it. Practice what you will, but IMO you're better off putting lead downrange than having to think about all the possibilities like elbowing an assailant. It's hard to miss at two yards distance. But I probably could do it.
Edit: The above is predicated on a surprise attack. I can see where it wouldn't apply: if you hear a bump in the night in your house, you're likely to have time to get a gun and assume a position. No position is perfect, but if you're going to shoot any position, practice it thoroughly.
Jerry
At one of the private ranges i belonged to we had a retired LEO that designed a "fun" weak hand only combat range, there was no timed fire, just as fast as one could get on target, we used pistols, shotguns and rifles, both bolt and semi's. The whole idea was not how good you were but how bad under less than ideal conditions, it was a real time learning experience, if you have never tried to work a right hand bolt action from your left side while lying on the ground behind a barricade, try it.
JAY
Had it in Ranger School. Started with BB guns shooting at aluminum discs about the size of a silver dollar thrown in the air. Took about an hour to get really good at hitting the discs. Then with M 16s at standard silhoutte targets at close range. The course was about four hours long as I recall.
BB gun held under your arm and shooting was instinctive. Fun.
But it looked effective for close-contact engagements.
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I REALLY don't like the idea of teaching a bladed stance to cops or other people who wear body armor for a living. Pointing the arm-hole in your Kevlar at the threat is NOT SMART.
As most handgun encounters take place at really short distances, it's wise to have a couple techniques in the bag to run that handgun in close that are safe (for you) and don't compromise the reliability of the pistol. That said, you're probably going to have to improvise, as "stance" is something the other guy probably won't let you settle into.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
"Here lies the body of Johnathan Gray- - - -
Who died while defending his right-of-way- - - - -
He was right, dead right, as he sped along- - - - -
But he's just as dead as if he were wrong!"
:roll:
Jerry
If you have to change magazines or if you start with an empty gun, you're in a world of hurt and probably you've already lost. Fun is where you find it. Nothing fun about defending your life; it's dead serious. Games people play to "challenge" others in scenarios that aren't remotely related to real self defense situations are in highly-unlikely situations. It's what got me out of IPSIC decades ago...running, shooting, supposedly related to the real world, when it was only gamesmanship. Which I wouldn't spend the ammo and time to participate in.
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