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6EQUJ5 - WOW! wrote: »
Realize that, however, how much more chipping away of our Constitution are we going to take? If and when Congress and the state legislatures ever repeal our 2nd (chances are they will at some later time) are you going to feel the same way when gun owners are "breaking the law" because of contraband and cops are going door to door rounding them up and making criminals out of us? I said it before and I'll say it again - the police (as a whole) are completely out of control.
early wrote: »
Some of the tone of this thread confirms my thoughts on the power of these images on tv. This is not necessarily a negative outcome, but the potential for harm to our communities is real.
I've had two personal interactions with LEO's in the past few years that resulted in what I felt were unjust outcomes. Having said that, I'm a very long way from the police are out of control camp. My life experience simply does not support this.
I don't issue a blank check either. I want real evidence in its entirety to form my perception.
Gene L wrote: »
The cop in question didn't weigh 240 pounds. You're a hater who thinks he can brand someone as a psychopath based on a few seconds of video.
You must have had your ass kicked in the past by a cop.
CaliFFL wrote: »
So the weight of the cop is what's important? Sheesh.
Anytime I see a man beating a woman, I label him a psychopath. It doesn't take 20 seconds.
When anyone dares questions the donut brigade, it must be because a cop beat, or slept with their wife, or been in jail?
I don't condone police behavior. Don't beat women, don't search without cause, don't shoot dogs when you have the wrong address. Most of all, stop violating the Constitution.
Teach wrote: »
Has anybody ever survived successfully defending himself against a rogue cop's illegal behavior?
NCFUBAR wrote: »
Those who question LEOs in general being anything other than those who try to protect society from evil that many liberals deny exists might need to see what a week ... or even a day ... of blue flu would lead to.
6EQUJ5 - WOW! wrote: »
No cops where I live except the occasional county deputy making his rounds once and awhile. We all get along fine without a continuing police presence.
NCFUBAR wrote: »
Same for where I live but each day a venture to more urban areas for work, groceries, gas, etc where LEOs (city police and deputies). Without a LEO presence there would be a spike in breakins, robbery, car theft and so on. Don't kid yourself into thinking LEOs taking a week or even a day would not lead to trouble ... maybe not at rural homes but think of many cities (Fayetteville, Durham, Greensboro, Charlotte, etc) with an epidemic of blue flu ...
Jermanator wrote: »
Happy Easter Jason!
jbp-ohio wrote: »
snake284 wrote: »
You don't have to be a missile scientist to see that is excessive force. Those unarmed little girls are not a real threat to those cops. I'm for the cops. But this is much worse than the Rodney King episode. It could be argued that they needed to subdue him and he was just a tough nut to crack. But you can't tell me it takes the same amount of force to subdue a young girl as it does a 30 year old man.
I'm not saying all cops are bad. No way! A vast majority are good guys and do a great job. But what I saw on here is in my opinion, abuse. There's what? maybe 1 or 2 out of a thousand that will abuse their authority. That 1or2 need to be punished for their extreme actions.
I try to give the cop the benefit of the doubt. Like when those LA cops beat on Rodney King. That was abuse. I watched that video for a week trying to see how to give the cop the benefit of the doubt. There was no way. They were all ganged up on him beating him senseless. They should have flipped him over and cuffed him right there and loaded him in the car and took him to the station or jail whatever. Not beat him senseless. they took due process out of the equation. And if 4 or 5 trained grown men couldn't do that they need to go to the gym and do some body building work.
If they can get away with doing that then the sky's the limit. Familiarity breeds contempt. If a cop can do that to somebody for calling him a pig then he will begin to think it's ok. After a while he will begin to do it to my kid or yours. If my kid was drunk and mouthing off, **** slap him, cuff him and take him to jail. Don't use him for a punching bag.
And you don't karate a young girl and break her bones for her smart mouth. Turn her on your knee and make her butt black and blue if you must. But don't beat her where you can cause bodily damage.
If it's a guy (NOT A KID) if he persists whup his ass. Throw him on the ground and do what you have to to gain control. But there's no need to do that to a young girl. That's pure and simple abuse. It doesn't take that kind of force to subdue a 115 pound girl. The cop should use such force as is necessary to gain control of the situation. And if you tell me that much force is necessary for a supposedly trained grown man to subdue a young girl, I'm throwing the BS flag.
The cop is suppose to keep the peace, take em to jail if need be, but he/she is not judge jury and hangman. He's not there to punish or teach a lesson. The cop should use just enough force to subdue the perp. Leave the punishment phase to the courts. Of course if a cop runs into somebody that can cause him bodily harm. Then he needs to use all force necessary to contain the suspect. What I saw with those girls was above and beyond what was necessary.
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