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olesniperolesniper Senior MemberPosts: 3,767 Senior Member

$600........really?
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,986 Senior Member
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    $600? PT Barnum covered that, allegedly. :tooth:
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  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,632 Senior Member
    I don't see a practical use for that, so it's WAY down at the bottom of my list of "crap I should waste my money on".

    OTOH, if somebody was to give me one....
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,577 Senior Member
    They've put some thought into it, but I'm not a buyer.
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  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    Looks like a lot of fun. If it were under $100 I would probably buy it. But I refuse to help cover the R&D and set-up costs of new ventures. That's for suckers. A year or two from now, when those initial expenses have been covered, let's see what they go for then. Or, wait for NcStar or some other company to copy it for a fraction of the current MSRP.
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,577 Senior Member
    horselips wrote: »
    Looks like a lot of fun. If it were under $100 I would probably buy it. But I refuse to help cover the R&D and set-up costs of new ventures. That's for suckers. A year or two from now, when those initial expenses have been covered, let's see what they go for then. Or, wait for NcStar or some other company to copy it for a fraction of the current MSRP.


    Same train of thought here too. I get a kick out of crowd sourced Kickstarter campaigns too. Whatever happened to putting up $100,000 of your own money to start a business?
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  • JLDickmonJLDickmon Senior Member Posts: 1,726 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Why would you put up your own cash if you can get investors?

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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Full auto rate of fire is fine for suppressive fire, and that's what FA is really for. Your first shot might be on target but the rest will only be in the same approximate zip code. I've fired the 1919, M-60, and old VN era M16, and they are good for hosing down a general area, but accurate fire in full auto mode is just not possible. Well, maybe with the Browning M2 .50 BMG. rate of fire is slow enough to get back on target sorta kinda before the next round. That thing has a huge bolt cycling and all that motion of moving parts keeps things shaking enough to make accurate fire not reliable.
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,577 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Why would you put up your own cash if you can get investors?

    Kickstarter isn't an investment platform.

    "Project creators keep 100% ownership of their work, and Kickstarter cannot be used to offer equity, financial returns, or to solicit loans."

    It's literally "give me money so I can live my pipe dream."

    But hey, if you can get a bunch of **** hipsters to give you money for headphones made of wood that cost $299 more power to you I guess.
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,577 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Full auto rate of fire is fine for suppressive fire, and that's what FA is really for. Your first shot might be on target but the rest will only be in the same approximate zip code. I've fired the 1919, M-60, and old VN era M16, and they are good for hosing down a general area, but accurate fire in full auto mode is just not possible. Well, maybe with the Browning M2 .50 BMG. rate of fire is slow enough to get back on target sorta kinda before the next round. That thing has a huge bolt cycling and all that motion of moving parts keeps things shaking enough to make accurate fire not reliable.

    And the M2 is often mounted to recoil mitigating mounts that weigh more than the gun.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    And the M2 is often mounted to recoil mitigating mounts that weigh more than the gun.

    Shot a few off M60 and M48 tanks, and they need all that weight in the mount, and then some. The ones I shot were sans compensator of any kind on the muzzle, and ALL that blast energy shoved it to the rear with authority.
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  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Senior Member Posts: 5,971 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    And the M2 is often mounted to recoil mitigating mounts that weigh more than the gun.


    Sometimes necessary! The reason you'll never see a M2 mounted on a H-60 is because the recoil is so great it can crack the airframe at the mounting point.
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,577 Senior Member
    Sometimes necessary! The reason you'll never see a M2 mounted on a H-60 is because the recoil is so great it can crack the airframe at the mounting point.

    Makes things interesting. :tooth:
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,577 Senior Member
    What if you don't have $100,000 sitting around to do that? If that was the only way to get a venture off the ground there would be a lot fewer businesses in the world.

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    I guess all those businesses started in the 80s and 90s came from Kickstarter?
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Full auto rate of fire is fine for suppressive fire, and that's what FA is really for. Your first shot might be on target but the rest will only be in the same approximate zip code. I've fired the 1919, M-60, and old VN era M16, and they are good for hosing down a general area, but accurate fire in full auto mode is just not possible. Well, maybe with the Browning M2 .50 BMG. rate of fire is slow enough to get back on target sorta kinda before the next round. That thing has a huge bolt cycling and all that motion of moving parts keeps things shaking enough to make accurate fire not reliable.

    WWII Fighter Pilots didn't only line up on a target and fire, they would swing the nose of the plane through the target. That's easier than trying to steadfastly line up and sight the target. There was too much movement from both the gun platform plane and the target plane to try shooting stationary(No at 300+MPH anyway). It's like when I shoot a hand gun. I'm no Adolph Topperwein (Although I think maybe He did this also) I usually swing through a target firing on something moving. Even when I'm shoot a stationary target I don't just try to hold on it. I will go through the target like from bottom to top and shoot when the sights cover the target or shortly before that I start squeezing the trigger. For no more than I shoot a hand gun I'm fairly accurate with that technique.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    WWII Fighter Pilots didn't only line up on a target and fire, they would swing the nose of the plane through the target. That's easier than trying to steadfastly line up and sight the target. There was too much movement from both the gun platform plane and the target plane to try shooting stationary(No at 300+MPH anyway). It's like when I shoot a hand gun. I'm no Adolph Topperwein (Although I think maybe He did this also) I usually swing through a target firing on something moving. Even when I'm shoot a stationary target I don't just try to hold on it. I will go through the target like from bottom to top and shoot when the sights cover the target or shortly before that I start squeezing the trigger. For no more than I shoot a hand gun I'm fairly accurate with that technique.

    Shooting a weapon firing 600-900+ rounds per minute (10-15 rounds per second) is a LOT different from that bolded part. Depending on the weight, they dance around like a burlesque dancer with fire ants in her thong! :rotflmao: Lots different than firing single shots or even rapid fire double action or semiauto from a pistol. Firing a long full auto burst does tend to paint the area with lethal metal, though. Put enough bullets in a given area and you'll eventually hit something worthwhile. Long bursts are discouraged except for suppression fire, though. Eats up ammo and overheats the weapon.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    No, they came from banks or other loans from family, friends, or investors. The point being is that few people put up 100% of the start up capital for a business, at least not one of any real size

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    That startup money for that trigger mechanism wouldn't be that great. Circuit board, battery, and handgrip. The grip could be farmed out as well as the circuit board. All the shop space that would be needed would be to assemble and test the product. Not like opening up a big manufacturing facility by any means. A small building would be more than enough space; something like a 40'x40' building can be rented for not much.
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