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rallykid
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Pocket .380 suggestions for the Mrs.
rallykid
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Janine surprised me tonight by telling me that SHE wants a new gun! Mark it on the calendar, it doesn't happen often. She loves the pocketability of my LCP but with wrestling the baby around and all the associated stuff that goes with him she would prefer something with a safety which is why she is shying away from her .38 snubbie. The first thing that came to mind was the Bodyguard .380 which I am researching. Anything else in this size range with an external safety worth looking at? This has moved to the top of the priority list for purchase so I want to do it quick before she has a chance to change her mind about spending the money.
No, I do not have a pink fuzzy bunny fetish but apparently my Facebook hacking wife does.
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Edit-- No external safety on the Kahrs either, but they are nice little pistols.
They have PM9's with external safties now, I imagine the 380's will sooner or later....
Not sure why she has an aversion to no safety but that was one of the requirements. She has pulled the trigger on the LCP and said it was fine but still wants a safety. I also know better than to try to change her mind once it is made up which is a fact Jermanator can attest to so I am jus trying to find something that fits her requirements. If the Kahr .380 is coming with a safety that would probably be just about perfect. Still going to check out the bodyguard and see if the PPK is pocketable enough for her.
Then buy yourself an LC-9, or better still, a Kahr PM-9. :tooth:
:that: What he said. Glocks and guns without external safeties are the number one reason kids pickup a "toy" gun and pull the trigger and shoot soemthing.
I advocate that any family with young kids should not have a gun without a safety and it shoudl NEVER be within their reach. If baby looks in Mom's purse and pulls out a "toy gun" you have an accident waiting to happen.
IMHO
D
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
SMC 380 is a 6+1 .380 with a safety, in an aluminum titanium frame with a steel slide. They are around but you might have to look on gunbroker.com and have one shipped in. It has a good safety and is the smallest gun allowed to be imported after the gun control act. It is light, but not as light as an LCP. It weighs 19 ounces unloaded. There are two versions, one in steel and one in aluminum titanium. Be careful which one you select for weight, but they are both marked the same.
Here is a picture of my SMC collection. Note the steel .380 on the right and the aluminum titanium .380 on the left in the middle.
Here is one for $350 on GB but it is way over priced:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=266215463
Next would be a polish P64. It's a 9x18 gun ( 10% to 15% more powerful than a .380), all steel and heavier, but it also has a full safety and is cheap at $190 or so and is a C&R gun. They are best with a $25 spring replacement for the trigger and recoil spring. Easy to do and very reliable. It weighs 21.3 ounces unloaded with the magazine in place.
Here is a great deal on one in GB with all the accessories you might need.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=265775607
I own both and like them both.
IMHO
D
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
Jerry
Dan all my kids were raised with glocks and never had a mishap its all about education and training, by God how many kids get injured with scoldong hot water on the stove every year. I tought better of you Danny boy. :queen:
D
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
I had a Colt Mustang, it was a great gun for a .380 acp, they want close to $ 800 nowadays though.
Here is a good deal on a pocketlite Mustang
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=266341973#PIC
Perhaps the SIG 238 is worth looking into.
Er, the reason that kids pick up a real gun has nothing to do with whether it has a safety. Safety or not, kids pick up guns because they have not been taught about them. I'm of course talking not about little toddlers but older kids. And yes I know that there are tragic "accidents" all the time but these originate from ignorant adults who don't have the brains to either keep guns locked up or educate the kids on firearm safety.
Having a firearm within access to a kid should never be based on whether it has a safety. It wouldn't take a kid very long to figure out how to click that off.
When I was growing up, in the bedstand on my dad's side was a loaded 1911, on my mom's side was a .38 snubbie, also loaded. I would have never considered laying hands on either gun any more than I would have thought about taking cash from my mom's purse or dad's wallet, both of which would be on the dresser. It was just something you did not do.
I had toy guns from the beginning and I knew what was a toy and what was not. I knew what a toy telephone was or any other toy that resembled the real thing. There's no way I would have messed around with a real gun and thought it to be a toy. Partly because I'd gone shooting with Dad and knew what a real gun did.
I had capguns and yes, the Red Ryder BB gun, too. And at age 9 for my birthday I received a .22LR rifle. This I kept in my own bedroom closet, along with a couple bricks of ammo.
Of course we were from Kentucky.
Jerry
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
Yes, most of us grew up around guns. I got to shoot my first .22 rifle at 3 and my first AR15 experience was at 5. I knew the difference between a toy and a real gun and my son will be taught those differences as well. We are vigilant about firearm safety and that will be drilled into our kids just like it was both of us. Not all of us northerners are ghetto crackheads with no clue about guns, however I do encounter them everyday at work.
Jerry
Understand I'm not dissing sensible gun safety. If you've got a toddler, you need to childproof the house -- things like electric outlet guards, keeping sharp utensils out of reach, small things such as a childproof bin for household bleach, etc, and keeping pot handles on the stove turned away. And of course locking up the guns or keeping them on high shelves in the closet.
Of course I don't remember going through that phase but when my kid sister was roaming the house, my folks kept the guns put away.
Things like that are just common sense, good parenting. Kids living in a proper, pro-gun home will be educated on guns early, just like they are on most other civilized things. There is of course that mid-level age between when the kid is unable to get to a gun and then able to learn about them, and that's when parents need gun lockers, regardless of the self defense negatives.
But heck, I was shooting my Dad's 1911 when I was 8 or 9 (him standing right there helping me of course). And I'm no exception. Those of us who've grown up around guns were taught gun safety from the beginning.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen to "gun smart" families, but I'd also say the chances of a kid "playing" with a real gun rarely occurs in these homes. More often it's when mamma's, er, "Uncle" Mike leaves his cheapie gun next to the bed or keeps it under the mattress next to his crack pipe.
Not going too far off topic but the existence of an external safety on a gun is of little significance compared with all the other goofy things grown people do with loaded guns.
I remember a few years ago here, this jerk had, of course, a 9mm cheapie, went outside New Years Eve to shoot it, naturally the damn piece of junk jammed, so he took it inside and was trying to unload it when it discharged, shot and killed his 6 year old daughter. He told the news it was "God's will" and that made me want to visit a bit of God's will on his head. Arrgh.
Also, they're a bit big to be a pocket carry firearm. Especially for most women I know.