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Remington model 30 rifle???
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I see one featured in a magazine article here. I can't remember ever seeing one before. It had a solid rear bridge, dog leg bolt handle, and a stripper clip loading slot. It looks like it might have a full length claw extractor, but I can't tell??? The safety is wierd looking, bulky.
Anyone know anything about these rifles?????:uhm:
Anyone know anything about these rifles?????:uhm:
My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
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Dad 5-31-13
Griffin. & Howe made some awesome sporting rifles out of them....
The Brits made them as P 14s because they couldn't develop the .280 or whatever it was and ran short of the SMLEs. I think all of the P 14s were made here in the US, Remington, Ilion, and Winchester, which was the most prized.
The Remington Model 30s always looked to me like a home-sporterized P 17 and I would think it's heavy...sure looks heavy.
Edit: the experimental round for the British was a .276 high velocity round.
Don't forget that the 1917 (along with the 1903 Springfield) was still being issued and used by the USMC during the opening days of WWII....Marines on Guadalcanal were still using bolt guns....so they were still in the inventory long after WWI...
Jerry
Why so small?? Those 17/30 actions have more real estate than Trump. If it's a 45 you want, go Rigby! Great action to start with for a 505 Gibbs as well. I mean, everyone hates wasted action room :devil:
All the the P14s &-17s they built had Paul Jaeger triggers and were modified to cock on opening, new floor plates, drilled and tapped receivers. They used the P-14s for the 300 & 375 H&H cartridges and used the original dropped floor plate to allow 4 rounds in the magazine and modified the -17 or Win M-70 extractor and opened the action for the longer cartridges.
My boss gave me a copy of Roy Dunlap's "Gunsmithing" which explained in detail how to modify the trigger to cock on opening in case i wanted to build some after i left, which i did, most were milled with a square rear bridge. I still have that book.
JAY
I'll say this, they're real solid. I love 'em. My old friend who lives in Lake Jackson TX has his dad's old sportered 1917. The gun smith did a fantastic job on sporterising it too, it ain't no bubba job for sure. It's a hell of a rifle. It's fixed to cock on opening with a timney trigger. He said the gun smith put a Speed Lock kit in it to make it cock on opening instead of closing. I used to read about Speed Locks in old gun rags. They were big back in the 50s-60s. This gun was sportered in the late 50s.
About 10 years back his dad traded the thing for a pistol and a couple hundred dollars at a Victoria LGS. Curtis dropped in to visit his dad one day and ask his dad where the old Enfield was and he told him (His dad lives here). He had just traded it the day before. So Curtis got in the car and drove like a man possessed to that gun shop in Victoria. He said there it was still on the rack when he walked in the door. He bought it back. I didn't ask him how much he paid for it, but I recon if they had put $1000 on the price tag and wouldn't budge off it, he would have given it to get that gun back in family possession.
See, when we were in high school the Scouts were allowed to hunt on the Welder Ranch which hadn't been hunted in 30 years at the time and there were quite a few nice old trophy bucks on the place. He and I were both Boy Scouts. I killed a little 12 inch wide 8 point. He killed a 21 inch wide Monster 9 point (One point had been broken off probably fighting), a deer I would be honored to have on my wall, with that rifle. To say that there was a little sentimentality involved there would be a vast understatement. That's the only deer Curtis has ever killed. If they only let me kill one deer in my life I would take that one in a NEW YORK minute. And that Enfield was what he did it with.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.