Home Main Category General Firearms

Intervention: How bad do I need a Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70?

24

Replies

  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,228 Senior Member
    Weatherby wrote: »
    Nope the platform you want is a Ruger #1


    That. Of course I am not really a lever gun fan.
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,535 Senior Member
    Just buy it.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    I really wish Chiappa would come to their senses and make a stainless 1886 with plain walnut.
    This one is very close and yet very far from the mark.
    https://www.chiappafirearms.com/p/id/65/product/1886-Ridge-Runner-TD-Rifle.php
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,801 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,523 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    So what's the intended use? (real or imagined)

    Pfffffttttttt! I don't know. Make thing dead?

    :-)
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,523 Senior Member
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,801 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Unfortunately, H&R is no more.

    You'd have to look a bit but i imagine those aren't hard to find.
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,523 Senior Member
    Weatherby wrote: »
    Nope the platform you want is a Ruger #1

    I had one several years ago. Wasn't handloading at the time. Didn't shoot it much. Sold it like an idiot.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,973 Senior Member
    I blame CPJ for this...

    I love shooting my 45-70 with Trail Boss load under 405 gr lead. You and your boy will have ENOURMOUS fun shooting these at 50 yard targets and pigs. At 1000 FPS it will drill a hole through almost anythig with 5.56 like recoil.

    An you can make up full power rounds for bear, moose, elk, buffalo, whatever your heart desires. You could even shoot BP through it for a taste of the old west.

    I own two, and I am slimming my collection, but I don't want to part with either. They are that much fun.

    dan4570hunting_zpsc01da5d3.jpg

    392b9eb9-3e6d-4e58-bcbf-099322b8a2d3_zps1245a378.jpg
    507D7702-E24C-4057-8822-77842E40EB39_zpsmsrp0t8t.jpg
    9160886B-68AC-4ED2-866D-5866CA3851C8_zpsvptmvqoh.jpg
    D227D0A4-0F7E-4C85-B986-4A7D8C2E83E9_zpse2voozsz.jpg


    D










    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,523 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    I'm not a huge fan of the Guide simply because of the straight wrist stock. On something that has the potential to BOOM, I want a pistol grip type stock that I can properly pull back on as is on the standard 1895.

    That has been one of my flip-flops over the years. Which grip angle to go with. Straight or curved.

    I like the looks of straight. But, the feel of the curved.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,523 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    You need a 45-70. Guide gun? Cowboy?
    I'm not much help. I have both!

    I want to scope the .45-70 if I get it.

    My .458 Win Mag is in a peep sighted Mauser action. So, I want the .45-70 to have a scope option. Therefore, not sure I'd go with the Cowboy model.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 4,931 Senior Member
    No, you need an original Win. M-71 in .348

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,973 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I want to scope the .45-70 if I get it.

    My .458 Win Mag is in a peep sighted Mauser action. So, I want the .45-70 to have a scope option. Therefore, not sure I'd go with the Cowboy model.

    Most mounts will not let you put a scope far enough forward. And these guns excel as a "stalking gun" for close range where a scope kind of gets in the way.

    Mine has the XS Systems ralil on it, and can go both peep or scoped with QD's . I learned my lesson the hard way the scope needs to be placed forward far enough to prevent this...

    875518F9-FEA2-4EF3-8AFB-3D82FFE0385D_zpsacete3sj.jpg
    100F1EC9-88E7-446B-ADDA-00BF8A499CD0_zpshzzwhx7k.jpg

    I believe I fractured the bridge of my nose at the range that day, too.

    My first Trail Boss loads at 50 yards...

    98BF44AA-06C4-4423-9AC6-529DFADC4987_zpsjflah688.jpg



    Straight or curved, I don't really find a difference.

    9C3C32AE-0FB1-4EAC-9C19-4281D14EBD43_zpsqb8ij0zh.jpg

    See the top gun? That is the one that gave me the scope kiss. The regular Weaver mounts just did not allow for enough forward placement.




    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,801 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    That has been one of my flip-flops over the years. Which grip angle to go with. Straight or curved.

    I like the looks of straight. But, the feel of the curved.

    That's what she said.



    Couldn't resist
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,127 Senior Member
    You need the Marlin... badly. But there have to be rules...

    1) It has to be used.
    2) It has to have some character.

    It can't be one of those "run out and buy a new one" things. You will have to work for it.

    Time to get to work!
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • 6EQUJ5 - WOW!6EQUJ5 - WOW! Banned Posts: 482 Member
    As long as it can be safely smuggled into the house pass the Mrs. "homeland security systems," I'd say you definitely need one. :jester:
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,523 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    I seem to remember us telling you you're scope was too far back Dan....you listened. Finally. :tooth:

    I'd get the guide gun over any other. Short barrels rule. You could always scout scope it. Really make the lever purists ill.

    I have a 4x Weaver Pistol scope I could mount on a scout rail.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,148 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    That has been one of my flip-flops over the years. Which grip angle to go with. Straight or curved.

    I like the looks of straight. But, the feel of the curved.

    The answer is pretty clear really. Get one of the pistol-caliber 1894's with the straight stock. They do point quickly and deploying "high technique" to avoid being clobbered is not necessary (pondering this option in .45C to match my Redhawk).

    For the thumper, you only want it to thump on the front end. Check out the 1895SBL https://www.marlinfirearms.com/lever-action/model-1895-big-bore/model-1895sbl. 18.5" tube keeps your carbine sense tingling; PG Stock keeps you from getting hammered; the long rail lets you hang your ninja optics or something more conventional; it has peeps, and the laminate stock and stainless metal allow you to drag through the weeds with impunity.

    So. . .how's this intervention going for you, Tex? We talk you out of it yet? :jester:
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,523 Senior Member
    That's a little pricier than I want to fork over.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,394 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    Just buy it.

    This. If its Zee or Wambli talking, we all know they're gonna buy it anyway, so why ask us? You could have already posted pictures and a range report! :roll2:
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,148 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    That's a little pricier than I want to fork over.

    Shop out a standard 1895 then. You kick up to a 22" tube, but for accelerating that big blob of inertia up to speed in a big bore, low pressure system, that ain't a bad thing.

    And a 405 grain cast bullet from one WILL kill deer. Ah's seed it mahself. . .and it was GOOOOOOOOD! :jester:
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 2,254 Senior Member
    A Marlin in 45-70 Is SO passe'.

    You NEED a Win 1895 in .405.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,627 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I have a 4x Weaver Pistol scope I could mount on a scout rail.

    Aaagh! Why? Don't you trust yourself with an open sight at closer ranges?
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,523 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    Aaagh! Why? Don't you trust yourself with an open sight at closer ranges?

    Yes. That's what the peep sighted .458 Win Mag is for.

    The Marlin would get a scope.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,627 Senior Member
    You must be hunting dinosaurs. Or cape buffalo. Trust your eyes.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 6,414 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Yes. That's what the peep sighted .458 Win Mag is for.

    The Marlin would get a scope.
    Seem like that would be better the other way around......
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,523 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    You must be hunting dinosaurs. Or cape buffalo. Trust your eyes.

    I trust them. I just like scopes.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,523 Senior Member
    Elk creek wrote: »
    Seem like that would be better the other way around......

    The Mauser is not D&T for bases.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 6,414 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    The Mauser is not D&T for bases.
    Oh it would be a crime to D&T it.....carry on.
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,523 Senior Member
    Elk creek wrote: »
    Oh it would be a crime to D&T it.....carry on.

    Exactly!

    ;-)
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
Sign In or Register to comment.
Magazine Cover

GET THE MAGAZINE Subscribe & Save

Temporary Price Reduction

SUBSCRIBE NOW

Give a Gift   |   Subscriber Services

PREVIEW THIS MONTH'S ISSUE

GET THE NEWSLETTER Join the List and Never Miss a Thing.

Get the top Guns & Ammo stories delivered right to your inbox every week.

Advertisement