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MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior MemberPosts: 4,801 Senior Member
My TRUE magnum length double square bridge mauser 98 clone came in today!

I knew the outside dimensions before purchase.....but seeing is believing!! Holy cow its big, and heavy!! Magazine will take 3.85" cartridge, bolt is big enough for some seriously large cartridges, the bolt body is about 3/4" diameter.

May have to rethink my choice to go 375 here, it would feel like putting a 223 in a standard M98!! With the bolt all the way open its probably a foot long, at least haha


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Wambli Ska wrote: »
Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
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  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,426 Senior Member
    WOW indeed. I wish I had a standard M98 to play with. That thing is huge.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,387 Senior Member
    mitdr774 wrote: »
    WOW indeed. I wish I had a standard M98 to play with. That thing is huge.

    Mausers are on the heavy side in general unless you remove some metal. Even a short Yugo weighs probably a third more than a Remington 700 action. You add length to that and you have a real clunker. You want a rifle to carry around hunting get you a Remington or Savage action with a thin barrel.
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  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,801 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Mausers are on the heavy side in general unless you remove some metal. Even a short Yugo weighs probably a third more than a Remington 700 action. You add length to that and you have a real clunker. You want a rifle to carry around hunting get you a Remington or Savage action with a thin barrel.

    This IS a rifle to carry around. Difference is WHAT you're carrying around. I don't even know if you could get something like a 416 Rigby or 505 Gibbs in a 700. This will be spacious
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,426 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Mausers are on the heavy side in general unless you remove some metal. Even a short Yugo weighs probably a third more than a Remington 700 action. You add length to that and you have a real clunker. You want a rifle to carry around hunting get you a Remington or Savage action with a thin barrel.

    I have taken Mauser based rifles to several continents. They might be on the heavy side but I dont worry about them failing me and like the lines over that of a tube steel receiver.
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    This IS a rifle to carry around. Difference is WHAT you're carrying around. I don't even know if you could get something like a 416 Rigby or 505 Gibbs in a 700. This will be spacious

    With that thought ... .408CheyTac?
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,387 Senior Member
    mitdr774 wrote: »
    I have taken Mauser based rifles to several continents. They might be on the heavy side but I dont worry about them failing me and like the lines over that of a tube steel receiver.

    Hey, I'm not knocking them in the least for the reasons you stated. I have several. I love em. They're solid and built like a Brick Poo House. What I'm saying is if you want a light weight rifle like a mountain rifle that you can carry all day, get you a Remington or Savage, maybe a Remington Model 7 if you can get by with a shorter action. But if you want one built to last and ultra reliable in the face of dangerous game, there's few that can match a Mauser.
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  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,801 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Hey, I'm not knocking them in the least for the reasons you stated. I have several. I love em. They're solid and built like a Brick Poo House. What I'm saying is if you want a light weight rifle like a mountain rifle that you can carry all day, get you a Remington or Savage, maybe a Remington Model 7 if you can get by with a shorter action. But if you want one built to last there's few that can match a Mauser.

    If you can get yourself a good small ring 98 (not 91/93/95/96 but a true SR 98) like a G33/40 you can make a pretty light rifle. IIRC the action alone is around 11 oz, maybe 12. Yugo is like just shy of a pound.
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,387 Senior Member
    This IS a rifle to carry around. Difference is WHAT you're carrying around. I don't even know if you could get something like a 416 Rigby or 505 Gibbs in a 700. This will be spacious


    You know what I'm talking about Dan, a mountain rifle. When I was planning on going elk hunting with you a few years back you all told me to bring something light weight. I don't think I'd want to carry a True Magnum length anything up around 8,000-10,000 foot of elevation. But the beautiful part of that is you probably don't need a beast like that at that altitude. I've not heard of any elephants or cape buffalos in the mountains lately.

    Of course you might run into the occasional bear but that's what a .338 is for.
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  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,801 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    You know what I'm talking about Dan, a mountain rifle. When I was planning on going elk hunting with you a few years back you all told me to bring something light weight. I don't think I'd want to carry a True Magnum length anything up around 8,000-10,000 foot of elevation. But the beautiful part of that is you don't need it.

    Haha, no. I feel like this action alone weighs almost as much as my Colt Light Rifle '06
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,824 Senior Member
    Wow, can't wait to shoot whatever the hell you build on that sucker!!

    Sako
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 4,931 Senior Member
    From the pics It doesn't look like a controlled feed action.

    JAY
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  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,350 Senior Member
    Would a round for a 20mm cannon fit in that thing?
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,400 Senior Member
    Would a round for a 20mm cannon fit in that thing?

    Too small. The 20mm round, not the gun! :tooth:
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,536 Senior Member
    Wow. That does deserve a booming caliber. Something Gibbs, perhaps.
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,127 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Words you've never heard... :tooth:
    Wrong. There was that one time he forgot to flush!
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  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,801 Senior Member
    jaywapti wrote: »
    From the pics It doesn't look like a controlled feed action.

    JAY

    It is
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,801 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    Wow. That does deserve a booming caliber. Something Gibbs, perhaps.

    Its tempting. What is NOT tempting, is imagining what 90 ft-lbs of recoil will feel like
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,801 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    You can, the long action 700 will fit just about any round out there because it was made to fit 30-06 class AND true magnum rounds like the .375 H&H and others. You only need the right cartridge box and bolt. It's also strong enough for ANYTHING you want to throw at it. BUT there is nothing like a true Magnum length Mauser action. Where DID you get that???????

    Here's another one for CPJ.....

    Its not the length, its the girth.

    A Rigby or Gibbs is fatter than the RUM series. Stepping into the 50s the cartridge rim may be too big to mill out.

    Just looking at dimensions, I'm not sure it would fit. Rem offers the Lapua, so they've got a bolt that fits a .585 case head. But the 338L stops at 3.6". 416 Rigby is 3.72 and the 505 is 3.85 and a rim/base of 640.

    06 375 404 505

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    I got it from the classified from at accurate reloading. It had been there for over a month and the guy kept dropping the price. Once he hit 450 shipped I snagged it
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,801 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    True, but it still won't be super light. And if I did all those things you mention (which I'm not opposed to) I'd be better off starting with a plain vanilla savage Remington, etc. Its a Mauser. It's needs to be made of metal, not beer can. :tooth:

    I'll weigh my '06 98. Its one of those Choate blind mag stocks. With the thin barrel. To my ultra precise left hand vs right hand, it feels lighter than my CLR, which is like 6.25 or 6.5 lbs
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    Its tempting. What is NOT tempting, is imagining what 90 ft-lbs of recoil will feel like

  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,801 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »

    Yea, imagine its like that! Case H2o is 178 gr :yikes::drool::silly::tissue:
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,350 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »

    Worst nut shot ever.
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 7,761 Senior Member
    Square bridge magnum Mauser..............mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,973 Senior Member
    Is it long enough for a .338 Lapua? :love: .375 Cheytac?
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Our guys could already have Steel on Target by the time these Indians quit prancing around ................

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaK1jFg8JBE
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  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 6,419 Senior Member
    It's not "prancing" it their War Dance!
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,973 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    Our guys could already have Steel on Target by the time these Indians quit prancing around ................

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaK1jFg8JBE

    skip to 6:30...

    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,536 Senior Member
    Its tempting. What is NOT tempting, is imagining what 90 ft-lbs of recoil will feel like


    .500 Gibbs will be a kitten.
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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,151 Senior Member
    May have to rethink my choice to go 375 here, it would feel like putting a 223 in a standard M98!! With the bolt all the way open its probably a foot long, at least haha

    Well. . .what are we trying to accomplish here? A .375 H&H will fly about like a 180 grain .30-06, feed like greased eel boogers with it's tapered case, and out-penetrate a lot of the large bores without pounding you. Think of it as the dangerous game stopping rifle that might get you on target quicker because there's not as much bracing and gritting of teeth as a preamble.

    Then again, there's a few wildcats based on necking up the .375 H&H case to .458, if you like the abuse.
    WWJMBD?

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  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,801 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    Well. . .what are we trying to accomplish here? .

    No clue! But these actions don't pop up very often, and especially not with a 3pos safety already installed, and not for what I paid. Price was right, so that was the easy part. I have ammo/dies/barrel for the H&H, but seeing how big this action is, seems like there is a lot more potential.

    It WILL be getting a synthetic stock though. Its a matter of some filing and bedding to fit this into the B&C made for the CZ550 Safari. And it'll get coated vs blued. Nasty critter gun that can also take nasty weather. It'll probably end up weighing 10lbs at least, sans scope, without being creative. A 10lbs 375 is just a bit porky
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
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