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Teach wrote: »
Maybe knowing he's not the only one in the situation who's armed makes a difference.
bullsi1911 wrote: »
More than likely it's because a CCW is a 'good guy' card. You have been background checked, and are not a wanted thug. A cop told a buddy once about his CHL: "This tells me you aren't a turd"
CaliFFL wrote: »
In the mid 80's I lived in N. Long Beach, CA one block from the Compton, CA border. Very few white boys in that 'hood.
Several times I was approached/stopped by police and asked about drugs. The address on my ID solved the issue promptly.
Make_My_Day wrote: »
I can't speak for the police involved, but my suspicion is that because you were a white guy in a black neighborhood, that gave police the suspicion that you were either in that neighborhood looking to buy drugs, or you already bought some and were on your way out. I'm not saying their suspicions were justified, or even legal to stop you, but I am willing to bet that was the reason in both cases. Not many white people will go into black areas for obvious reasons....out of fear of being attacked.
john9001 wrote: »
without probable cause and without a warrant is a unreasonable search.
tennmike wrote: »
When the feller, or gal, you're arguing with holds four Aces, arguing is going to be pointless. If you feel that you were disrespected, then fill out a complaint, and/or take it to court. It's usually a lot less painful.
It's basic interpersonal relationship 101. If the person you're interacting with comes off as a jerk straight out the gate, then you're not going to be putting up with that for long, and especially if you're in the 'power position' in the situation. Employer vs. employee might get you fired. Cop vs. unruly person might end up with cute 'matching bracelets' and a ride to an overnight in a gated community. Some people never learned to pick their fights, and tend to choose poorly as a result, and develop that chip on their shoulder that gets more self inflicted wounding reinforcing the size of the chip.
Gene L wrote: »
Not necessarily. A STOP doesn't require PC, just a reasonable suspicion in order to conduct an interview. Can't get a warrant each time you STOP someone, not time for one reason among many. It's also not a "search" of a person unless it goes beyond Terry v Ohio.
Courts decide when a search is unreasonable. After the fact.
I know you have a specific example in mind where an action is unreasonable, but in the practical real world, very few are.
john9001 wrote: »
Amendment IV. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
sgtrock21 wrote: »
Does finding and confiscating a weapon discovered in a "pat down" constitute illegal search and seizure?
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