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JerryBobCo
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Do you trust the DOJ and FBI?
JerryBobCo
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I know. Silly question.
For me, it's a no brainer. The answer is no and no. Both agencies are so full of leftover loyalists to the Obama administration that I don't trust them to be fair and impartial. That being said, I do believe that a lot of the rank and file of both are honest and hard working, but by the time a report gets to the top, it's been 'filtered' to say whatever the higher officials want it to.
Look no further than Robert Mueller. He was the FBI director when the Uranium One deal was occurring. He either knew what was going on and chose to look the other way, which makes him complicit, or didn't know, which makes him incompetent. Either way, he doesn't seem interested in looking in that direction but would rather try to find dirt on Donald Trump.
For me, it's a no brainer. The answer is no and no. Both agencies are so full of leftover loyalists to the Obama administration that I don't trust them to be fair and impartial. That being said, I do believe that a lot of the rank and file of both are honest and hard working, but by the time a report gets to the top, it's been 'filtered' to say whatever the higher officials want it to.
Look no further than Robert Mueller. He was the FBI director when the Uranium One deal was occurring. He either knew what was going on and chose to look the other way, which makes him complicit, or didn't know, which makes him incompetent. Either way, he doesn't seem interested in looking in that direction but would rather try to find dirt on Donald Trump.
Jerry
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
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Distrust of Govt is patriotic.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
I am more of a libertarian than anything else, and I think Fedgov being cut by 1/3-1/2 would only be a good START on what this country needs
- George Orwell
When the current AG starts prosecuting politicians and getting convictions, then I'll believe that the DOJ is going back to work for the public...and not until. I am sick to death of years long investigations that yield no significant prosecutions. And I'm also sick of investigative bodies like the FBI assuming the power to establish 'intent.' Their job is to gather the facts of what happened and recommend prosecution based on whether criminal action took place. The AG can work out what the intent was when the defense challenges on that basis. Let the defense prove that intent did not exist, rather than the prosecution proving that it did and laying it all out for teams of lawyers to pick to pieces.
Like JerryBobCo, I think the rank and file are doing their jobs as best they can. It's in the upper ranks, where things are way more political, that I have trust issues.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
Being one of those workers, i can say your percentage would cripple our Gov. But, big cuts off the top is what is needed. There are way to many GS-13/14/15s out there and half the SESs could be cut with no long term ill effects
Cutting all the clerks and mechanics and such is not the answer either. Way too many in the highest levels that do little in a day
It needs to be crippled. Reduction by half wouldn't have to hurt anything but those on the teat in one fashion or another.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
I have no idea what you do. All I know is the gov't is entirely too large by AT LEAST an order of magnitude. A 50% cutback wouldn't affect anything worth caring about, and would be a good start to getting rid of a lot of crap we don't need, don't want, can't use, and didn't ask for.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
In the real world, it's not that simple. Sure, government needs to be cut a lot but as Ron said, the cuts need to be taken from the top. Most government agencies are top heavy with management but the cuts always seem to be taken from the working side of the agencies. I'd like to see this administration create a group that does nothing but sift through every one of the thousands of different government agencies and departments and do some major house cleaning.
I agree it needs to taken from the top - BUT - entire agencies could be eliminated.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
This! GMB
Most could be eliminated. They have convinced us we need their “services”.
Both sides defend their favorite agencies and can’t imagine America without them.
The result is never ending expansion.
Adam J. McCleod
Yeppers!
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
What Zorba said. FBI/BATFE could be combined and others eliminated.
When it comes to DOJ... I had the opportunity to interact with some Obama era U.S. attorneys in trying to prosecute a guy who did a bomb threat with a fake device on Federal property....during the interaction with several of these people, I discovered that they tend to cherry pick their cases and only get involved if it will look good on their resume...in spite of the fact that criminals walk....without a doubt why less than 1% of the cases of people lying on their 4473s ever get prosecuted...
Some gov't actually does some good, but when you get to, "the third under secretary of diaper changes" it's gone just a wee bit far.
No argument from me.
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Need gallows and guillotines set up along the length of the Reflecting Pool to take care of the traitors. Be a full time job for a while. :roll2:
― Douglas Adams
Same here. Low percentage cases, cases with no sex appeal, cases that don't offer much chance of publicity... those are for the young, those without ambitions and the folks who have little chance of advancement.
ETA: The DA for my county LOVES to plea bargain with defendants. Makes life much simpler for him. He's a little too old to seek higher office, so I assume this comes from plain old laziness. People piss and moan about it, but come election time, he always runs unopposed.... and folks are too lazy or stupid to do anything about it.
George Carlin
I bet getting rid of the party junkets they call "conferences" in places like Las Vegas and other vacation areas would save a few billion $$$$
Shortly after 9-11 I attended a conference that was attended by Emergency Management/Anti-Terrorism folks from all over the country...in Las Vegas, in a casino hotel. Seemed to me, considering we were concerned about terrorism, having a well publicized conference on an obvious target was more than a little stupid.....should have had the thing in Moose Nose Montana in my humble opinion or just had a big teleconference.....