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I've a Johnson.............

orchidmanorchidman Senior MemberPosts: 8,276 Senior Member
............And I couldnt be happier.
Not sure some of you remember that when I was in Tennessee for the SE in 2013, I got word from home that the guy ( Frank) that taught me to hunt ducks and catch fish had passed away at age 101yrs.
He was a mentor to me from the time I was about 8yrs old and I spent many summer holidays with him and his sons learning to fish and hunt.
When I came back from the SE, I visited the family to pay my respects and one of the things they asked me was could I help them with the firearms he had to which I said yes. After cataloguing the firearms for them they decided to keep them and pass them down through the family.

Fast forward to yesterday when I arrived to prep the boat for the charter. After carrying out the checks etc I was drinking coffee with mark when  the Franks daughter arrived accompanied by her 35 yr old daughter. Franks grandaughter was visiting from Oz and Mark agreed to take her out on the charter.

Spent 30mins catching up with them before we cast off.

Get back from fishing and the granddaughter invited me back to her mums for dinner where we spent 3-4 hrs reminiscing over old times. The subject of firearms came up after dinner and they brought out what remained of Franks guns. Included in the firearms were his original Stevens SBS  12g, his AYA SBS 12g, an old K98 sporter in 7mm plus a few other assorted .22's, a Stirling 22magnum sans bolt and an M1 Carbine...........
The shotguns, while they had been oiled were showing signs of rust etc and they asked me if I could help find someone to restore them back to their former glory which I agreed to do. After inspecting them closely I said I would take them away and get them appraised and quotes for reblueing etc.

They then asked me if I would like to take one of the other firearms to have as a memento of my relationship with their Dad/grandfather.
The end result is that I they gave me the Stirling, a Spanish air rifle.............and the M1.

Its an Iver Johson 30 cal carbine and the serial number dates it around 1978/79. The last time I saw it fired, Frank used it to shoot a fallow deer at about 170yds as it ran at full speed across in front of him..........One shot dropped it dead. Frank was,from memory, in his late 60's and, bearing in mind he was using open sights, that shot is one of the best I have ever personally witnessed.

Here it is................

  The only thing that was missing was the magazine.

Got home late last night and although I was dead tired I spent the next 3 hrs fondling my Johnson. After watching a couple of videos on how to disassemble it I took it apart and put it back together. (Normally when I do this with a rifle I end up with enough parts to make a pistol.........but Frank must have been looking over my shoulder cos I didnt have any bits left over)

Further searching on the internet showed that one of my LGS's had M1 5 shot magazines for sale as well as 50 rnd boxes of PPU 110gr softpoints in stock. A quick trip this morning to get 2 5 shot mags and 100rds and it looks like I may be able to take it out on the weekend if I get time.

I dont intend to refurbish it or change it from the way I received it as the value to me in its present condition is priceless.

Any advice as to possible problems that it may have would be appreciated...........
Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....

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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,131 Senior Member
    Pretty cool. 
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,858 Senior Member
    I have old gun rags with ads for those rifles.


  • rberglofrberglof Senior Member Posts: 2,795 Senior Member
    That is very nice, wish mine looked that good.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,008 Senior Member
    Those guns from such sources are the best gun around.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Congrats and it makes it all the more better with sentimental vale.

    That ppu SP ammo makes it like a .357 fired from a rifle. Works good in my GM WWII M1.

    Make sure the Castle nut is tight/staked in place on the gas piston housing............I didn't and it cracked. Teach welded it and it has held good so far.


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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,682 Senior Member
    Nice acquisition.....Always had a thing for M-1 carbines...
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,686 Senior Member
    You TOTALLY suck!!!

    Nice!!
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  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 5,009 Senior Member
    I have what I sure is an original Military 15 round mag, If you are going to the SE shoot i will get it to someone thats going and its yours.

    JAY
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  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,276 Senior Member
    jaywapti said:
    I have what I sure is an original Military 15 round mag, If you are going to the SE shoot i will get it to someone thats going and its yours.

    JAY
    Thanks for the offer Jay, but according to our gun laws putting a 10 round magazine on it qualifies it to be an MSSA ( military styled semi automatic) . With a mag that holds less than 10 rounds it qualifies as just another rifle which means the restrictions on using it are a lot less. If it was classed as an MSSA cos of the 10 round magazine, according to the law as it stands over here, I am the only one that can touch, hold,or shoot it. Bh wouldnt even be allowed to fondle my Johnson...........
    I do have a licence for MSSA's and may apply for a permit to get it reclassified as one later on but in the meantime I will keep it as a standard rifle so that others can experience what my Johnson is like........

    Thanks again for the offer.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,773 Senior Member
    Great memories for you. What a treasure
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    edited April 2018 #12
    Go to CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program) website and forums a lot of reloading pointers and tips on there.
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  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,280 Senior Member
    Nice Johnson!! Sorry to hear about your Draconian magazine laws. It's hard to get the carbine grin with just five shots!!
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    I found out WWII mags do not lock the bolt to the rear after the last shot. Later ones do. I have good luck with some South Korean aftermarket ones. 

    I don't know much about the I&J carbines. I almost bought one in the 80s with a pistol stock and grip, I think it was I&J.

    I do know folks have had some issues with the Universal made ones from South America. Parts not interchangeable and jamming issues.
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,812 Senior Member
    I wish you many happy hours, fondling your Johnson.
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,986 Senior Member
    Nice Carbine; some post-war made rifles might have some issues and others, specially those still using GI parts or compatible with them, or from the original mechanical design usually work properly.

    I think a wood handguard would look cool in that rifle; great plinkers and nice bush hunting carbines when equipped with the proper ammo.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Another option if you decide to reload for it are these Short Jackets......lots of exposed soft lead and a partial jacket to prevent leading. I've tried some and they feed and fire just fine.

    Probably work good on 2 and 4 legged varmints...................

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1010592754/hornady-bullets-30-carbine-308-diameter-100-grain-short-jacket-soft-point-box-of-100

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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    You really need to stop fondling your Johnson.......and go shoot it!

    The M1-Carbine is the first real gun I ever shot. I don't know why I don't have one. I really need to find me one so I can have something NEW to fondle.
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,405 Senior Member
    I believe from memory that the I-Js were made up from surplus M-1 carbine parts.  It's been a long time back, and this may be wrong.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    edited April 2018 #20
    That's a right handy little carbine, and getting from the source you acquired it makes it even better! Memories attach you and that rifle, and that makes it a very special one. Those carbines are a lot of fun to shoot, so have some fun!

    Here's a website you might want to visit if you haven't already. It gives some good history on the IJ M1 rifles and the variants made by IJ.

    http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_ij.html

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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    cpj said:
    Are you coming to Jerry's this year? Because I'd love to touch your Johnson. 
    Might get dicey to bring his IJ M1, but OTOH the one he carries all the time should pass right through customs...................
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  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,364 Senior Member
    The 30 rounders even if legal, are a mixed bag of meh. Stick with the 15 rounders. Never had one of those fail.

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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,692 Senior Member
    For years I owned an IJ Enforcer Pistol and that was about as much fun as you can have with your pants on.  I foolishly let a buddy talk me out of it and someday I will replace the danged thing...  Looked kind of like this one.

    One of the companies is making those again.  I have a SERIOUS case of irrational wants over them.

    https://www.inland-mfg.com/Inland-Handguns/M1-Advisor.html



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  • ojrojr Senior Member Posts: 1,215 Senior Member
    Well done again Alex, you seem to have a knack.
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,686 Senior Member
    One of the companies is making those again.  I have a SERIOUS case of irrational wants over them.

    https://www.inland-mfg.com/Inland-Handguns/M1-Advisor.html



    Way cool! Not $1300+ cool, but way cool.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member

    I've a Johnson.............


    Most dudes do! Some fishermen even have Twin Johnsons.............


    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member

    I've a Johnson


    Most dudes do!


    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Big Chief said:

    I've a Johnson.............some fishermen have Twin Johnsons..............


    Some saltwater fishermen have three, four, and even FIVE Johnsons.  Confused animated emoticon
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,405 Senior Member
    Bradley Manning had a johnson once, but got rid of it.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
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