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Going to build a can.

FFLshooterFFLshooter MemberPosts: 1,057 Senior Member
i don’t know if anyone remembers a few weeks ago in another thread about me going to a guys shop that is a manufacturer in NFA items so that I could do a Glock transfer, but I got to thinking that I finally want to take the plunge and get a can, and this guy doesn’t make them (just transfers them) but he knows all of the laws around it and is willing to help me with the paperwork and legalities. I know it’s better to do it through a trust but since it’s cheaper to go the other route, that’s the way I’m going to do it. He also informed me that since I already have a FFL and I’m already fingerprinted and picture with the ATF, I won’t have to send that in. I’m hoping that will expedite the process but I haven’t a clue. I’m thinking I’ll just make one in .22cal and call it done unless y’all can convince me otherwise. Once I get the stamp I’m likely going to video record the machining of it just because. Who knows, may start a YouTube channel.

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  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    For **** sake. I forgot about their new **** terms and conditions.
  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,490 Senior Member
    There are some vendors that will sell you some of the “unfinished” parts that you might need to get started.   At the very least, they should help you with the design.
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
     By all means start with a .22 can, just build it for centerfire .22. 
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    Just plan for the pressure of the caliber, something I had not considered.  A .22 lr not an issue, but a 5.56 and 55,000 chamber PSI is a lot different.
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,682 Senior Member
    For **** sake. I forgot about their new **** terms and conditions.
    post it to full30.com   thats where the gun channels are going as they get kicked off youtube
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
     By all means start with a .22 can, just build it for centerfire .22. 
    Definitely what I had in mind.
  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    For **** sake. I forgot about their new **** terms and conditions.
    post it to full30.com   thats where the gun channels are going as they get kicked off youtube
    I never heard of that place but I’ll be checking it out since YouTube turned into a bunch of commie liberals.
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 2,542 Senior Member
    I don't mean to derail your thread but you jogged my memory: Didn't someone on here post about filing the paperwork for a silencer from a company that had a computer kiosk or some such set up inside a lgs? Supposedly the company had a deal with BATF where doing it their way on the computer you got approval in something like 90 days?  Or did I dream that?
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,374 Senior Member
    Took 8mo, 12 days to get MY stamp back, ATF told me it was taking a little longer for trusts than for individual form 1's

    I bought everything I needed for mine, (except the drill bit) from JPMF Company

    RugerFan, that was ShotgunShooter3 and it's SilencerCo that has the Kiosks, in limited locations, I looked when he talked about it and I don't believe there's one conveniently close to us
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 2,542 Senior Member
    Thanks, Knife. I couldn't remember who posted.about it or when it was. 
  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    cpj said:
    Id be slightly interested in going the non trust route. The cheaper the better, and there are ZFG about what happens after I die. A simple instruction of "take this to the local police station and drop ot
    off when I die" works fine for me. 
    That was pretty much what I told my wife she’ll have to do when I die. That’s one of the perks of being dead: you don’t have the ability to give a **** anymore.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,384 Senior Member
    My LGS owner thought about making one, but checked with ATF auditor to see if it was legal.  She said, sure, for R&D, so long as you don't transfer it.  So he'll build one and if he feels it profitable, will get a class 3 (or whatever) license to start building and transferring them.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    It’s my understanding that he can’t build one unless he’s a manufacturer type 7, class 2. Because my type 1 won’t allow that or I’d be R&Ding all day long.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,374 Senior Member
    It’s my understanding that he can’t build one unless he’s a manufacturer type 7, class 2. Because my type 1 won’t allow that or I’d be R&Ding all day long.
    You can build all you want, you just have to file the paperwork (form 1), pay your $200/ea and wait like the rest of us
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    knitepoet said:
    It’s my understanding that he can’t build one unless he’s a manufacturer type 7, class 2. Because my type 1 won’t allow that or I’d be R&Ding all day long.
    You can build all you want, you just have to file the paperwork (form 1), pay your $200/ea and wait like the rest of us
    I should have been more clear. He can’t make any for R&D just because he’s a type 1 FFL without getting a stamp.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,384 Senior Member
    It’s my understanding that he can’t build one unless he’s a manufacturer type 7, class 2. Because my type 1 won’t allow that or I’d be R&Ding all day long.
    I don't know what his license is, but he builds rifles so I assume a type 7 or whatever.  He's very good, with a mongo lathe and a milling machine. He's covered up with work, since he's the only gunsmith around here that I know of.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
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