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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,669 Senior Member
    edited May 2018 #62
    tennmike said:
    HERE is the brutal truth that Alpha fails to acknowledge. Terrorists in training from the cradle.


    Dont'cha' know? Liberals NEVER acknowledge the truth, unless it benefits them in some way. Like most Libs, Alph would rather stick up for the terrorist sand-monkies than the REAL victims in this hell-hole.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member

    Dont'cha' know? Liberals NEVER acknowledge the truth, unless it benefits them in some way. Like most Libs, Alph would rather stick up for the terrorist sand-monkies than the REAL victims in this hell-hole.
    The line between 'liberals' and 'leftists' has become very blurred in recent years. Historically, liberals have leaned left to varying extents (for the last 5 decades, or so), but still hadn't completely crossed the line into preaching that conservatives are so evil as to be equated with the most vile of our declared enemies. Leftists, on the other hand, have always been hard-core opponents of individual freedom, and don't pull many punches when reviling those that you and I think of as 'normal' Americans.

    It's hard to pin them down, as either, because neither likes to debate the legitimacy of whatever their ideology is, or even to identify themselves with an ideology. It's almost like their ideology is just anything that tears at the unity of the nation, and anybody who disagrees with them is stupid.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    The Palestinians/HAMAS want to wipe the Jews off the face of the Earth, the Jews just want to be left alone........a big difference. 
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,748 Senior Member
    Dehumanizing people considered as enemies is a very old practice. I think its likely ineffectual over all.

    It's also important to remember that the intensity of rhetorical debate is not necessarily reflective of the true character and beliefs of the person posting. Much like the ease of condemning an entire people based on the actions of extremists, its easy on line to forget we're having a debate with people deserving of our courtesy and respect.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    Your post speaks volumes. Your inability to see them as human beings is a huge part of the problem. As long as you can see them as not human it's easy to justify all sorts of mistreatment. The problem is humans or even monkeys or dogs for that matter when treated badly enough for long enough have a tendency to lash out and bite. Since you don't see them as human anyway, might as well continue with the analogy. Essentially Israel has a cage full of wild animals and they keep mistreating them and in return they keep getting bit.
    Your sympathizing with terrorists will win you no friends. The PLO was/is a terrorist organization. Hezbollah is a terrorist organization. The government in Gaza is a terrorist organization. THEY ALL have in their creed and founding documents the utter destruction of Israel and the Jewish people. If the Israeli people kill the people that are trying to kill them daily, then that is just an example of natural law; when someone is killing you then you have the right to try to kill them in return. You seem not to understand that simple concept of self defense.

    If the Israeli Jews packed up and left Israel to the 'Palestinians' tomorrow, within a year it would be the same squalid mess that Gaza is now, and return to desert as it was when the Jews returned and made the desert bloom after they won their war for their state. What it was BEFORE the Jews returned and built that jewel called Israel is what it would return to in short order. And the explanation is simple, IF you have any concept of history. The 'Palestinian' Arabs build nothing; they tear down with a vengeance. Within that first year, infighting and a whole crowd of factions would be fighting each other over the spoils, and at the end of the year, be fighting for the scraps. And everything would be destroyed leaving a squalid bunch of paupers with their hands out to the UN for food and economic aid. The food they'd eat and the economic aid would be converted to arms to continue killing off the various factions. And there would be a few 'fat cats' at the top, most likely ayatollahs or mullahs, stirring the pot to keep the killing and the hatred going. With no Jews left, they'd be fighting over which flavor of Islam is the 'right' flavor, and depending on which 'flavor' you subscribe to, your job would be to kill those that don't drink the same Kool-Aid to which YOUR ayatollah or mullah subscribes.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    edited May 2018 #69
    .................. its easy on line to forget we're having a debate with people deserving of our courtesy and respect.

     

    I have not courtesy or respect for a blatant liar.






  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Hey we all love guns! Double pistols animated emoticon
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    edited May 2018 #71
    Big Chief said:
    Hey we all love guns! Double pistols animated emoticon
    Well said that chap.

  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,669 Senior Member
    edited May 2018 #72
    Dont'cha' know? Liberals NEVER acknowledge the truth, unless it benefits them in some way. Like most Libs, Alph would rather stick up for the terrorist sand-monkies than the REAL victims in this hell-hole.
    Your post speaks volumes. Your inability to see them as human beings is a huge part of the problem. As long as you can see them as not human it's easy to justify all sorts of mistreatment. The problem is humans or even monkeys or dogs for that matter when treated badly enough for long enough have a tendency to lash out and bite. Since you don't see them as human anyway, might as well continue with the analogy. Essentially Israel has a cage full of wild animals and they keep mistreating them and in return they keep getting bit.
    Yeah, and the zookeeper shouldn't get in the cage with the Hyenas. You're F***ing-A right. Terrorists are not human...they're animals, and until you wake the F*** up you will be having your balls and your head cut off in 20 or so years. Those are not innocent people, they're Hamas i.e. TERRORISTS. WT**** does it take for you dumbasses to see reality??
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,669 Senior Member
    edited May 2018 #73
    bisley said:

    Dont'cha' know? Liberals NEVER acknowledge the truth, unless it benefits them in some way. Like most Libs, Alph would rather stick up for the terrorist sand-monkies than the REAL victims in this hell-hole.
    The line between 'liberals' and 'leftists' has become very blurred in recent years. Historically, liberals have leaned left to varying extents (for the last 5 decades, or so), but still hadn't completely crossed the line into preaching that conservatives are so evil as to be equated with the most vile of our declared enemies. Leftists, on the other hand, have always been hard-core opponents of individual freedom, and don't pull many punches when reviling those that you and I think of as 'normal' Americans.

    It's hard to pin them down, as either, because neither likes to debate the legitimacy of whatever their ideology is, or even to identify themselves with an ideology. It's almost like their ideology is just anything that tears at the unity of the nation, and anybody who disagrees with them is stupid.
    I classify the left into 4 different categories: Moderates (almost acceptable, like JFK), Liberals (Misguided and ignorant, like Jimmah Cahtah in 1976), Progressives (bordering on Communism & Fascism, like Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Clintons, Obama) Actual Communists and Facists( we know the history of these people). Alph probably fits into the Liberal category, a product of hippie-liberal parents, according to him in 2009...leftist but maybe salvageable at some point, but only after he gets whacked by a reality bat.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    I saw all I needed to see of the 'Palestinians', a.k.a. assorted Arab people, on 9/11/2001. They were celebrating in the streets and passing out candy to all the good little terrorist boys and girls. Sorry, but I'm not sorry that I don't care about those people............And I use the word 'people' in its most nebulous term.



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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,903 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    I saw all I needed to see of the 'Palestinians', a.k.a. assorted Arab people, on 9/11/2001. They were celebrating in the streets and passing out candy to all the good little terrorist boys and girls. Sorry, but I'm not sorry that I don't care about those people............And I use the word 'people' in its most nebulous term.



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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,669 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    tennmike said:
    I saw all I needed to see of the 'Palestinians', a.k.a. assorted Arab people, on 9/11/2001. They were celebrating in the streets and passing out candy to all the good little terrorist boys and girls. Sorry, but I'm not sorry that I don't care about those people............And I use the word 'people' in its most nebulous term.



    Some people seem to forget or never paid attention.
    These pigs will NEVER get my sympathy!
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Ha, don't call them animals like Trump did referring to MS-13 gang members........the left media got their panties in a wad over that..................they rape, kill .........one of their favorite methods is beating someone to death with baseball bats they spiked with nails.....................or hack them to death with machetes...............   they tried to backtrack and said they were human beings with some nonsense.


    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    Big Chief said:
    The Left hates Trump in particular, and Conservatives in general, so much that they will embrace the worst of the worst and decry their plight to tear down the opposition. That is what comes from hating Trump and people who don't think like them, and hating their country because it isn't Socialist like Venezuela.
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  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    If the Palestinians wanted peace there would be peace ...

    If the Israelis wanted war there would be no Palestinians ...

    Think about it ...
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,727 Senior Member
    As pointed out on one TV show, if 30,000 Palestinians showed up resisting and attempting a forced entry and 60 or so were killed, that number represents less than .01% casualties on their part.  The media are being used and seemingly enjoying it.  The math may be wrong, but you math whizes can figure it out.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    Gene L said:
    As pointed out on one TV show, if 30,000 Palestinians showed up resisting and attempting a forced entry and 60 or so were killed, that number represents less than .01% casualties on their part.  The media are being used and seemingly enjoying it.  The math may be wrong, but you math whizes can figure it out.

    That would be 0.002%, not that it really matters.
    The thing that no one says anything about is that the video shot on the Palestinian side is shot by Palestinians paid and supplied with the video equipment to do it. Western journalists don't fare too well on that side of the border. Not like they wouldn't stage some shots to forward their narrative, or anything like that!
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,669 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    That would be 0.002%, not that it really matters.
    The thing that no one says anything about is that the video shot on the Palestinian side is shot by Palestinians paid and supplied with the video equipment to do it. Western journalists don't fare too well on that side of the border. Not like they wouldn't stage some shots to forward their narrative, or anything like that!
    Of course, those muslims use propaganda as well as the left in this country does.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    edited May 2018 #84
    HAMAS has confirmed that 50 of the 60 killed were HAMAS (Terrorist).

    Many were found with names and addresses of Jewish Kindergartners and were told to find and hang them.

    Our mainstream media has swallowed the bait, hook line and sinker!

    Some jerk-offs in a NY school decided it was a good idy to have a moment of silence for the HAMAS terrorist...........

    Not a matter of if, but when another terrorist attack will hit the West and those who don't take the threat seriously will look on incredulously as those who they championed and said were being mistreated are the culprits.................


    "A Hamas official on Wednesday acknowledged that 50 of the 62 Palestinians reported killed during Gaza border riots on Monday and Tuesday were members of the Islamist terrorist group, bringing the total number of known members of terror groups among the fatalities up to 53."

    “In the last rounds of confrontations, if 62 people were martyred, Fifty of the martyrs were Hamas and 12 from the people. How can Hamas reap the fruits if it pays such an expensive price?” said Hamas official Salah Bardawil in an interview with the Palestinian Baladna news outlet."

    Questioned about the figures by the presenter, Bardawil said they were “official.”




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