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Remington V3 'range report'........and problem.

orchidmanorchidman Senior MemberPosts: 8,296 Senior Member
Bought a V3 as mentioned in an earlier post a few months back to replace my aging 1187's.

Initial thoughts were that Remington finally had a replacement for the 1187 instead of the Versamax which was larger and seemed 'clunky' to to me.

Got it home and stripped it down, oiled it up and apart from a couple of shots at the range to pattern it with my duck hunting load It sat in the safe till the first weekend of Duck season at the beginning of May. I also spent about 30 minutes a couple of nights before the season opener just swinging it up to the shoulder with my eyes closed just to get used to the swing. Everytime I did this then opened my eyes the gun gave me a perfect sight pic  .....( not that I ever look at the sights when field shooting)

Opening day was clear skies and no wind. The first bird that came into the decoys dropped at the first shot. so did the second a few minutes later followed by no 3 4 & 5. I was impressed. The gun handled almost identically to my 1187 despite the fact that the barrel was 2" longer.

Because it was slightly heavier at the muzzle it took a little more effort to 'git her moving' but that was balanced by the extra weight which assisted in swinging on faster passing birds.

At the end of the weekend I stripped her down and gave her a thorough clean. Shooting over 'salt' is hard on shotguns. One of the major problems is loading cartridges  when you have salt on your hands..........it gets deposited in the chamber and can form surface rust pretty quickly. An inspection of the chamber showed that it only needed a quick run through with a soft wire brush to make it look like new.

When I stripped it down, I found that one of the gas compensation plug assemblies was hard to undo however a coating of oil soon had it smooth again...........more about that below.

The bolt is Parkerised...........and it was already showing signs of surface rust, as was the magazine end cap. A quick wipe with oil, a scrub with a non metallic pad and a re-oil had it looking like new. 

This did annoy me as all my 1187's had chrome bolts which didnt have that problem.

Fast forward to the second outing. After putting a few more rounds through it I found that it took more pressure to feed the magazine ie to fully push the shells home. I am hoping it will get smoother with time as when my hand/thumb was  cold and wet, I did find it awkward to reload quickly.

I like the magazine cutoff which allows you to empty the chamber without feeding another shell out of the mag. It came in handy when dealing to wounded birds as I could use up some old ammo in a smaller shot size.

The big test was this last weekend. As I described in the hunting thread the weather was atrocious, Torrential downpours and icy cold winds. At times the V3 ended up being completely exposed to the rain and salt spray. And that created another problem.
There are 3 gas ports on either side of the forend just in front of the receiver and the face upwards. With all the water around, the first shot after a shower would spray gas/water up into my face..............which meant that I would have to clean my glasses regularly.
At the end of the shoot my eyes felt quite gritty.

However, during one of the thunderstroms  and while I was sheltering under a cover with the V3 across my lap I tried to roll a cigarette and ended up dropping a pile of tobacco into the breech area..........Of course, with the rain it stuck and I didnt want to field strip the gun in those conditions so I made do with using a twig to remove what I could. It didnt affect the gun in the slightest.................................................and it still cycled perfectly.

I periodically checked the breech and noted that the 'oil.  was more water than oil. Manually cycling the bolt showed it to be a bit sluggish but it performed perfectly when fired.

Now the bad bit.
Got home last night and completely stripped the gun down.
When I tried to take out the gas compensation plug assemblies, the right hand one came out easily. The left hand one however started easily and then began to bind until it locked up with moderate pressure. I screwed it back in and threw some oil at it then was able to unwind it another half turn before it locked up again. By continuing this process I managed to get it out....and discovered this

. The one on the right in the pic is the one that caused difficulties in getting it out.

Here is the good one in closeup


And here is the one that caused the problems...........
An inspection of the threads where it screws into on the lug attached to the barrel showed the threads in a worse condition.

I finished cleaning it, packed it into its box and took it back to my LGS this morning. Its going back to Remington for repair under warranty.

I still like the V3 and how it performs.I dont like the cheap 'parkerized' bolt/ forend nut or the plastic triggerguard  but with the right care it isnt a deal breaker
I wait with bated breath to see what Remington says..........
Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....

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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Hey, it's illegal to give underage Shotguns nicotine.

    Hope they make it right for you.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Having powder spilled/dumped in a chamber is a real PITA too.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,602 Senior Member
    Sorry to hear it's giving you trouble :(
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,745 Senior Member
    Looks like its galling - is it stainless?
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Looks like its galling - is it rstainless?
    If it is, maybe some anti seeze or choke tube grease on the threads can fix it up.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 13,649 Senior Member
    I assume there is no such thing as a right and left gas compensation plug assembly in the Remington catalog of parts? Those parts should be interchangeable?
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    That gas compensation plug giving the problem has defective threads. Looks like the thing got threaded twice and the second time whatever they used to cut the threads cut the threads at partial depth AGAIN on top of the thread crests just cut. That ain't good. Hope they make it right for you; that isn't something that should have left the factory.
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  • ojrojr Senior Member Posts: 1,227 Senior Member
    Took mine apart this morning after seeing your thread Alex,pleased [for me] to say the threads on mine are ok
    Second season now without an issue, hopefully they'll quickly replace the part or the whole gun after all it's still shooting season. 
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  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,296 Senior Member
    ojr said:
    Took mine apart this morning after seeing your thread Alex,pleased [for me] to say the threads on mine are ok
    Second season now without an issue, hopefully they'll quickly replace the part or the whole gun after all it's still shooting season. 
    I still have  2 1187s in good order ojr. We only have one weekend left on ducks up here. They did offer me a replacement V3 to use for the last weekend but I declined...........although thinking further on it I should have accepted, taken it out on the salt and then bought it as a second hand gun at a big discount lol,
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,296 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    That gas compensation plug giving the problem has defective threads. Looks like the thing got threaded twice and the second time whatever they used to cut the threads cut the threads at partial depth AGAIN on top of the thread crests just cut. That ain't good. Hope they make it right for you; that isn't something that should have left the factory.
    Thats what it looks like Mike. They would also have to replace the barrel as the threads in the lug attached to the barrel are stuffed and it is an integral part of the barrel.


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  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,296 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 said:
    I assume there is no such thing as a right and left gas compensation plug assembly in the Remington catalog of parts? Those parts should be interchangeable?
    They are interchangeable.......
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,296 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Looks like its galling - is it stainless?
    Its not stainless. Just blued steel. 
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    orchidman said:
    tennmike said:
    That gas compensation plug giving the problem has defective threads. Looks like the thing got threaded twice and the second time whatever they used to cut the threads cut the threads at partial depth AGAIN on top of the thread crests just cut. That ain't good. Hope they make it right for you; that isn't something that should have left the factory.
    Thats what it looks like Mike. They would also have to replace the barrel as the threads in the lug attached to the barrel are stuffed and it is an integral part of the barrel.


    Yeah, you're right about the barrel needing replacement, too, if they screw into the barrel. Those screwed up threads would not do the threads in the barrel any favors. I hope they aren't 'Richards' about it at Remington and do you right on the repairs. They should, since it's under warranty.

    Looked up the Owner's Manual on that shotgun. It has a VERY interesting gas system on it.

    Have you considered any of the silicone sprays for the outside of the shotgun, and the bolt, not for lubrication, but as a means of shedding moisture you encounter duck hunting? The silicons spray may make it shed that water faster and keep it from collecting  and sitting on/in the parts and causing surface rusting problems. Just a thought of something you could try to see if it might be something worth pursuing.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    edited May 2018 #15
    I guess I'm just old fashion but I think I'd rather have the 1187, but do they even still make them?
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  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,296 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    orchidman said:
    tennmike said:
    That gas compensation plug giving the problem has defective threads. Looks like the thing got threaded twice and the second time whatever they used to cut the threads cut the threads at partial depth AGAIN on top of the thread crests just cut. That ain't good. Hope they make it right for you; that isn't something that should have left the factory.
    Thats what it looks like Mike. They would also have to replace the barrel as the threads in the lug attached to the barrel are stuffed and it is an integral part of the barrel.


    Yeah, you're right about the barrel needing replacement, too, if they screw into the barrel. Those screwed up threads would not do the threads in the barrel any favors. I hope they aren't 'Richards' about it at Remington and do you right on the repairs. They should, since it's under warranty.

    Looked up the Owner's Manual on that shotgun. It has a VERY interesting gas system on it.

    Have you considered any of the silicone sprays for the outside of the shotgun, and the bolt, not for lubrication, but as a means of shedding moisture you encounter duck hunting? The silicons spray may make it shed that water faster and keep it from collecting  and sitting on/in the parts and causing surface rusting problems. Just a thought of something you could try to see if it might be something worth pursuing.
    I agree about the gas system. It does away with the spring and 'Y' yoke in the butt stock which means the stock doesnt sound hollow when you knock it.( synthetic stock).  Its a bit more 'fiddly' to strip down compared with the 1187 though but practice  makes it easy.....although I wouldnt like to try doing it in the field as there are a lot more parts.
    And the bonus is that it doesnt use 'O' rings for a gas seal,

    One of the reasons I waited to get one was to see if it would be reliable........everything I have read since it came out seems to indicate that it doesnt have any 'bugs' as such.

    .....With the exception of their quality control Lol.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    orchidman said:
    I agree about the gas system. It does away with the spring and 'Y' yoke in the butt stock which means the stock doesnt sound hollow when you knock it.( synthetic stock).  Its a bit more 'fiddly' to strip down compared with the 1187 though but practice  makes it easy.....although I wouldnt like to try doing it in the field as there are a lot more parts.
    And the bonus is that it doesnt use 'O' rings for a gas seal,

    One of the reasons I waited to get one was to see if it would be reliable........everything I have read since it came out seems to indicate that it doesnt have any 'bugs' as such.

    .....With the exception of their quality control Lol.
    I probably spent about 20 minutes studying the owners manual and action schematic I looked up on the Remington website. When I finally figured out how it operates I thought somebody had finally figured out the old short stroke piston system would work on shotguns, too. Like the gas porting system, too; that's a definite improvement and just HAS to help a lot in recoil control. And doing away with the 'O' ring seals is a big improvement. As they wear they cause problems with gas leakage.

    As to your comment on quality control at Remington, you're exactly right. Anyone handling that part should have KNOWN that it was not right. And the person that assembled it should have seen right off that the threads were screwed up, rejected that part, and brought it to the attention of QA/QC immediately to check all parts in that batch of parts for other defective parts.

    I hope when you get it back that it performs like a champ and gives you years and years of uncomplicated and reliable service!
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