Pretty much say's it all

104RFAST104RFAST Senior MemberPosts: 1,209 Senior Member
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266197/civil-war-here-daniel-greenfield
Its a year old but a good article on the state of the Nation.Buckle Up!

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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,999 Senior Member
    Here's the gist of this article, and it ain't wrong.

    "The left has made it clear that it will not accept the lawful authority of our system of government. It will not accept the outcome of elections. It will not accept these things because they are at odds with its ideology and because they represent the will of large portions of the country whom they despise."

    "The left is a treasonous movement. The Democrats became a treasonous organization when they fell under the sway of a movement that rejects our system of government, its laws and its elections. Now their treason is coming to a head. They are engaged in a struggle for power against the government. That’s not protest. It’s not activism. The old treason of the sixties has come of age. A civil war has begun.

    This is a primal conflict between a totalitarian system and a democratic system. Its outcome will determine whether we will be a free nation or a nation of slaves."

    It's not really a civil war, yet, because it might still be settled by elections, if the left is defeated by overwhelming numbers. But, if that fails, it will keep spiraling downward, and the Constitutionalists will not give it up without a fight. The left is a house of cards, if politicians can muster the guts to enforce the Constitution, but they are not measuring up, so far. If they play hardball, relentlessly, they can win.



  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 7,991 Senior Member
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/democrats-are-wrong-about-republicans-republicans-are-wrong-about-democrats/

    “The danger of mega-partisan identity is that it encourages citizens to care more about partisan victory than about real policy outcomes,” Mason told me. “We find ways to justify almost any governmental policy as long as it is the policy of our own team. What is best for America, Americans or even small children is secondary to whether our party’s team gets what it demanded.”

    So we are in a situation where Americans have sorted themselves into two parties along not just ideological lines, but also by geographical, religious, racial and other social and cultural differences. At the same time, they’ve adopted inaccurate, caricatured views of both parties that overstate these already sizable demographic differences. And they’ve started taking positions on issues based on whatever stance their party adopts.

    Nope, nothing bad can happen from this situation...
    "Finding out that you have run out of toilet paper is a good example of lack of preparation, buying 10 years worth is silly"
    -DoctorWho
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 14,042 Senior Member
    Nope, nothing bad can happen from this situation.
    And people on both sides are openly embracing it. Ironically, it makes them more alike than different.
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,141 Senior Member
    I think it is currently a civil war, the shooting just hasn't started yet.
    "He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."

    -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 1,259 Senior Member
    I think it sells.
    The mega left, the mega right, have no face.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 16,284 Senior Member
    "Parties"
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    Carry a 25 if it makes you feel good, but do not ever load it. If you load it, you may shoot it. If you shoot it, you may hit somebody, and if you hit somebody – and he finds out about it – he may be very angry with you. --Jeff Cooper
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 22,612 Senior Member
    I really have no use for either party; they both wipe their collective butts with the Constitution when it suits them. But the Left does have an ongoing love affair with Socialism as preached by Marx and Lenin, and that ain't good. And the Big Government to coddle from cradle to grave, and tax the rich into poverty. Their side thumbs their nose at religious freedom, firearms ownership, and personal freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution. They seem to be driven by emotion, not reason, and refuse to come together with the opposite side of the political aisle and work out solutions. Their 'taking their dollies and going home an pouting' is not how to come to a consensus solution.

    Geographical lines? That's the old Sectionalist Lines that were polar opposites in the 1850s and before, and the outcome of that wasn't pretty. It is happening again, but in a much more fractured way. Not two very distinct sectional areas; now it's a whole mess of divisions with every one screeching for their way or the highway. The two major sectionalist lines are still there; they never left after that dust-up in the 1860s. There's just a whole lot of fracturing on both sides.

    With very few exceptions, the Left are the ones that have used overt violence to push out and marginalize their opponents. And when a sitting member of Congress, Maxine Waters, calls on supporters to hound and harass the members of the opposite party wherever they are, then she is calling for open violent conflict and she knows it, no matter what she says to walk back her vile statement. Any blood shed, on either side, is on her hands, and she really doesn't care; her hate of Trump has made her hate to the point of demanding open conflict. That will work out really well. Mob mentality will eventually take over somewhere, and someone, or several, will get beaten severely, or killed. If that is what the Left wants to do, then they should realize that at some point, the fuse they lit will reach the powder keg.
    If a Liberal throws a hand grenade at you, pick it up, pull the pin, and throw it back at them.



  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,999 Senior Member
    I sympathize with the lefties who hate Donald Trump. But, I and a few million others didn't try to overthrow Obama when he started dismantling the system that made this country great, because he did it politically, and he could be held more or less in check by political means. The damage he did was still great, but one election has rolled back some of it in a little over a year, with more to come. It will probably take the rest of Trump's term and one more like it to clean up all of the bureaucracies that Obama populated with partisan political hacks. Hopefully voters will educate themselves enough to force the Democrat Party to reform itself, so we can someday get back to a functioning government.
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 26,254 Senior Member
    Yes and now that you have that Democrat luminary and keeper of the brain trust Maxine Waters asking for outright harassment of anyone in a government position by her idiot followers this is going to get good quick.  How long before one of these misguided mind-midgets ends up taking it to an extreme and ends up executing a government worker like the Blue Lives matter rejects started doing with cops?
    "Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching." General George S. Patton
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 1,506 Senior Member
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 14,042 Senior Member
    RugerFan said:
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 17,292 Senior Member
     How long before one of these misguided mind-midgets ends up taking it to an extreme and ends up executing a government worker like the Blue Lives matter rejects started doing with cops?
    Yep

    keep your powder dry
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 1,506 Senior Member
    edited June 27 #14
    I was attempting to post this earlier but was interrupted. 

    My son said today that he saw on social media(probably Twitter,  but idk that) that when Trump was was walking in the Capitol today an intern shouted "F Trump".

    All that the sponsoring Senator/Rep did was suspend the intern for 1 week. 

    He also asked.me if I had read that Sen. McConnell and wife were harassed either today or yesterday.
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 1,506 Senior Member
    edited June 27 #15
    I think(and hope) that the Dems/Liberals will be greatly surprised by their lack of votes in the midterms.  I suspect these tactics/antics will backfire on them. 

    This is predicated on the Right not doing something stupid before then. 
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 16,284 Senior Member
    RugerFan said:
    This is predicated on the Right not doing something stupid before then. 
    WORD. The right has a great track record of snatching defeat from the jaws of Victory.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    Carry a 25 if it makes you feel good, but do not ever load it. If you load it, you may shoot it. If you shoot it, you may hit somebody, and if you hit somebody – and he finds out about it – he may be very angry with you. --Jeff Cooper
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,083 Senior Member
    Would "doing something stupid" include defending oneself against a life-threatening attack?  That's where this cluster-flop is headed, like a city bus going downhill on a couple of inches of ice in a blizzard.
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
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  • terminator012terminator012 Senior Member Posts: 3,011 Senior Member
    I think these midterms are as important as the last Presidential election.
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 1,506 Senior Member
    edited June 27 #19
    Teach said:
    Would "doing something stupid" include defending oneself against a life-threatening attack?  That's where this cluster-flop is headed, like a city bus going downhill on a couple of inches of ice in a blizzard.
    No
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 26,254 Senior Member
    I think these midterms are as important as the last Presidential election.
    Arguably more...  Changing the team manager does little if you do not refresh the team and there quite a few players that need "refreshing",
    "Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching." General George S. Patton
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,999 Senior Member
    Lots of folks get criticized for saying every national election is the most important one ever. But, when a baseball team is behind by four runs in the bottom of the ninth inning, with two outs and a 3-2 count on the batter, they need a grand slam to have any chance of winning.

    Before the last election, gun owners and Constitutional purists were in exactly that position. Had Hilary Clinton been elected, and Democrats had won both houses of Congress, we would be losing every single gun control controversy that came up. We would no longer have a southern border, and our military would be a demoralized institution that couldn't keep enough planes and ships working to train the minimal forces to keep our enemies at bay.

    We were a hair's breadth away from losing our 'democracy,' with a four or eight year plan to undermine what was left of it. Regarding the mid-terms, they are hugely important if the country is to keep up the resurgence of the economy, the military, border control, combatting Islamic terrorism, and a hundred other issues of huge importance, not to mention cleaning up a Department of Justice that was quickly becoming an authoritative arm of the Democrat Party.
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