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Americans Have Bought More Guns In the Past Two Months Than Our Military Has On Hand

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  • NomadacNomadac Senior Member Posts: 902 Senior Member

    NICS Firearm Checks: Month/Year

    Statistics representing the number of firearms background checks initiated through the NICS from November 1998 to May 31, 2018.
    See note on bottom of chart


  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,905 Senior Member
    Lets see, .4% of Americans are in all branches of the Military.  That means that 99.6% are civilians, the numbers do not seem too out of line when you look at it like that.
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,748 Senior Member
    That's more like it.👍

    Way better than the tiny little 40% of the world.
  • 10canyon5310canyon53 Member Posts: 2,119 Senior Member
    Well, let's see......civilians are tax payers.....so we bought the military their guns too.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    Looks like from that PDF that 289,810,007 checks were made in that time period. That's a good thing. I tried to do my part during that period. :D:D:D
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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    I would guess that the number of guns bought is actually a tiny bit higher as some of us occasionally buy more than one gun at a time and a multiple gun purchase only requires one check.
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  • terminator012terminator012 Senior Member Posts: 3,929 Senior Member
    Ok, sitting at work talking about this. I had a question asked I could not answer.

    They do a back ground check and you are denied the gun. Does this still count as a back ground check in those statistics. If so there would be less guns sold than the checks taken.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    Pass or fail, a NICS check is a NICS check and is counted.

    Here's a FBI website that explains the whole mess, from the FFL holder point of view.

    https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/nics/about-nics

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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,712 Senior Member
    Nomadac said:
    Americans Have Bought More Guns In the Past Two Months Than Our Military Has On Hand.

    And
    Shut up-----KAREN; OK Cynthia
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    Ok, sitting at work talking about this. I had a question asked I could not answer.

    They do a back ground check and you are denied the gun. Does this still count as a back ground check in those statistics. If so there would be less guns sold than the checks taken.
    I don't really know. What I do know is that I have purchased multiple firearms under one background check. Then there are private sales that do not get a federal check.
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,748 Senior Member
    Business is booming📈
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,712 Senior Member
    What about no checks done if Ya have a CCW permit?
    Shut up-----KAREN; OK Cynthia
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    Then there is the fact that there is only about a dozen or so guns in actual existence and we are only buying, selling, and trading that dozen among ourselves and have been doing it for decades-- generating a background check every single time.
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  • terminator012terminator012 Senior Member Posts: 3,929 Senior Member
    One thing about this place. All angles will get covered. 
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    edited June 2018 #16
    Question. If you tried to sell a gun to yourself and had a LGS do the background check and you failed, who takes possession of the firearm you tried to sell to yourself? :#
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member

    I bought 30 Turk Mausers back when they were $29.95 apiece.  They had to use two 4473's because back then there was only room to list 20 guns on one sheet.  I guess that qualified as "two BG checks"? 

  • NomadacNomadac Senior Member Posts: 902 Senior Member
    I don't really know. What I do know is that I have purchased multiple firearms under one background check. Then there are private sales that do not get a federal check.
    If a person sold a firearm in a private sale this would not impact the number of guns in total, as the original background check is the trigger for # of guns. Otherwise you could buy the original gun and have a background check that would count, if you sold it to another person and he sold it to another person the count would still be one as there was only one gun in the total as 3 sales of the same gun.
  • Old RonOld Ron Senior Member Posts: 4,265 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    Question. If you tried to sell a gun to yourself and had a LGS do the background check and you failed, who takes possession of the firearm you tried to sell to yourself? :#
    I would say your x GF or x wife. ( They take everything else )
  • Old RonOld Ron Senior Member Posts: 4,265 Senior Member
    Nomadac said:
    I don't really know. What I do know is that I have purchased multiple firearms under one background check. Then there are private sales that do not get a federal check.
    If a person sold a firearm in a private sale this would not impact the number of guns in total, as the original background check is the trigger for # of guns. Otherwise you could buy the original gun and have a background check that would count, if you sold it to another person and he sold it to another person the count would still be one as there was only one gun in the total as 3 sales of the same gun.
    Selling guns ? I thought we just buy them & keep them for ever.
    ( Maybe that's just me )
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    Nomadac said:
    I don't really know. What I do know is that I have purchased multiple firearms under one background check. Then there are private sales that do not get a federal check.
    If a person sold a firearm in a private sale this would not impact the number of guns in total, as the original background check is the trigger for # of guns. Otherwise you could buy the original gun and have a background check that would count, if you sold it to another person and he sold it to another person the count would still be one as there was only one gun in the total as 3 sales of the same gun.
    On the flip side of that, and a wild exaggeration with my "dozen" statement in a previous post sort of gets at, is that a single firearm can generate multiple background checks. A good example is when I sent Zee my .338 Federal to dial in and do work on. Since we are in different states and I had to ship it to him, I had to ship it to his FFL where they had to run a background on him. When he sent it back, it had to go to my FFL where I had to have another background check. This was in addition to the background check I had to purchase it when it was new from the factory.

    That one rifle generated 3 background checks in less than 2 months!
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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    NN said:
    What about no checks done if Ya have a CCW permit?

    They still do a check, you just don't have a waiting period.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
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  • rberglofrberglof Senior Member Posts: 2,656 Senior Member
    NN said:
    What about no checks done if Ya have a CCW permit?

    They still do a check, you just don't have a waiting period.
    Not in many states, see above...
    Not in North Dakota ether.
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 2,292 Senior Member
    No background ck here in MS with a CC permit
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    edited June 2018 #25
    Or AL.  But you do fill out the form.  Not sure if they report it to NICS or not.
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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    NN said:
    What about no checks done if Ya have a CCW permit?

    They still do a check, you just don't have a waiting period.
    Not in many states, see above...

    I assumed that was a federal law. Here in Florida, you still have to have a background check but you don't have a waiting period with a handgun purchase.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
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