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Cody Wilson charged with child sex assault

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  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    Gene L said:
    I would be interested in seeing your defense of an adult male who has sex with a 16 year old, pays her 500 bucks, and (in your opinion) is the target of a government conspiracy. There is apparently no screening for 18 year olds except to state you are in registering. Which she apparently lied.  Maybe he should have printed a sex partner...of a blow up sex dummy.

    Gene L said:
    Being innocent until proven guilty is not the same as being falsely accused.  You should know that.
    Not allegedly had sex with a 16 year old, and paid her 500 bucks, but HAS sex with a 16 year old, and paid her 500 bucks. From the statement you made I can only conclude that you believe him guilty before he's had a trial by a jury of his peers since you didn't give him the benefit of the 'innocent until proven guilty' part of the law.
    Gene also called Wilson "short eyes" in a previous post. In his mind he is guilty of pedophilia. Based on one article containing hearsay statements from Austin PD. 

    She lied about her age, so what else did she lie about? Credibility of the witness is paramount in trial. 
    When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.

    Adam J. McCleod


  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    I consider him guilty of being up to no good by signing up for that web site.

    I also believe it likely he got set up. Its an old trick in the clandestine espionage business and our government as well as several others are well practiced.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,645 Senior Member
    Let's not accuse or excuse a crime based on a political view.  I just got over an argument with my sister over Kavenaugh; she thought he should be indicted over zero evidence except a history that some men have attacked some women in the  past.  Here we have enough evidence to issue an arrest warrant.  It doesn't matter that she said she was 18. Was he targeted because of his history?  Quite possibly, but did he commit a crime?  Bottom line.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    I figure we're going to find out in due time. I can't imagine him evading indefinitely.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Gene L said:
    Let's not accuse or excuse a crime based on a political view.  I just got over an argument with my sister over Kavenaugh; she thought he should be indicted over zero evidence except a history that some men have attacked some women in the  past.  Here we have enough evidence to issue an arrest warrant.  It doesn't matter that she said she was 18. Was he targeted because of his history?  Quite possibly, but did he commit a crime?  Bottom line.
    Sweet jaysus, Gene! INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

    One of the most sacred principles in the American criminal justice system, holding that a defendant is innocent until proven guilty. In other words, the prosecution must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, each essential element of the crime charged.

    Exactly WHAT PART of that statement of actual law is giving you heartburn?

    How do you KNOW, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the sex act DID happen other than the girl's statement? How do you know he didn't find out her real age once inside the room, throw some Benjamins at her and just bug out before ANYTHING happened? Have you privy knowledge to the results of a doctor's exam and rape kit? Unless you are privy to unpublished information, then you're making a 'shoot from the hip' decision of guilt. I wouldn't want you anywhere near a jury room even if the alleged crime was a purloined ham sammich! And sure wouldn't want you as an investigator. Investigators find and collect evidence of an alleged crime that is presented to a grand jury by the prosecutor, the grand jury decides if it goes to trial or not, and if it goes to trial, A JURY OF PEERS OF THE ACCUSED determine guilt or innocence based on evidence presented by the prosecution, and rebutted by the defense. The cops and investigators have no say on guilt or innocence other than to present evidence under oath or affirmation at the trial. They ain't on the jury, so their opinions on the matter don't matter doodly squat.
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    Be my guess that there's an assumption being made that a judge wouldn't issue an arrest warrant unless the PA/DA had enough evidence to make a case. Still the presumption of innocence makes no allusions for exceptions that I'm aware of.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,645 Senior Member
    My only problem is with the concept of a "false charge" being made.  The word "false" has a lot of freight attached to it.  The evidence will be what it will be.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,633 Senior Member
    I haven’t any clue who this guy is or what he did with a court case, but could it be a guy getting framed by a vengeful government agency? 
    Framed?  I would say probably not... but it wouldn't surprise me one iota if he was investigated EXTREMELY thoroughly following his "FU-ing" of Uncle.  

    Uncle tends to take a dim view of such things. 
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
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