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Boy’s 1st deer with a Pistol!!

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 27,561 Senior Member
edited October 2018 in Hunting #1
Well, a lot went into this one. Load work for reduced loads in the .308 Win BASP and .30-30 Contender Pistol. Then, getting the .308 threaded to accept a brake and reduce the recoil even more. Not to mention the practice through the spring and summer with the Ruger Charger Pistol, Contender, and .308 SP!

It all paid off. 

Went out yesterday evening and saw nothing but big bucks and only a few of them. Moon probably had them moving late. Sunset was awesome, though. A good time in the stand. 



So, we got up early and we’re in the stand an hour before sunrise. Making sure everything had time to calm down after our approach. A foggy morning, the deer moved late. It wasn’t until 7:30 that a 4 Point and 2 does came out. I was eyeballing the does and trying to decide which one to take when a spike came out. BINGO!!  There was our target. Seeing as we were culling with MLD Permits, that boy had to go. 

Well, that began a 30 minute ordeal of trying to get on him with the gun, him standing just right, clear of deer and brush, not moving. Then everything would start over again!  My boy was a trooper. 

He has shot 8 deer so far, I think. But, this was his first case of “Buck Fever” this morning. I mean, he had the shakes, the jitters, racing heart, everything!  He even said halfway through trying to get this deer shot, “My arms feel like jello they are shaking so hard!”

But, he stuck with it and the buck finally stood broadside. Clear from the others. My boy said, “Ready!” And I said, “Send it!”

BOOM!

The gun went off and the blast from inside the blind with a muzzle brake was intense!  Good thing for ear pro!

The buck jumped and took off in a semi circle stumbling the whole way. I could see blood pouring out the off side. After a 46 yard run, he flipped over and came to a rest on a two track he was running down. 



He was standing behind and to the right of the feeder. At the shot, he ran right. Then, circled around to his left, along the brush line, fell in the two track behind and to the left of the feeder. You can see his white belly in the gap in the brush, left of the feeder. 



This is our set up. He sat next to me until it was go time and then he sat in my lap to aim and shoot so as I could coach and spot for him over his right shoulder. 



Worked out perfectly. 

My my dad was able to be with us in the stand. Three generations of hunters were present for my boy’s first deer with a pistol. 



He has been practicing with the reduced 110gr Varmegeddon load. Well, I slipped a reduced 125gr SST load in the chamber without him knowing. While reduced, it’s still about 300 fps faster than the Varmegeddon load. He never knew the difference. I’m sure the deer did, though. 
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith

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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,561 Senior Member
    Shot was 107 yards. I told him to place the verticle crosshair through the middle of the on side front leg and the horizontal line halfway up the deer’s body. 

    Well damn. If he didn’t listen. 

    Entrance. 



    Exit. 



    I told my boy to pose for an obligatory “poke the eye to be sure” pose you see in all the hunting shows. 



    “Uh, from the time down, the blood trail leading up to the carnage at the scene.........he’s dead, Jim.”
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,982 Senior Member
    What a great memory
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,561 Senior Member
    The buck apparently had a massive cyst inside his chest cavity that fused his left lung (exit side) to the rib cage. 

    When I walked up to the POI, this is what I found on the ground. 



    And a couple steps later. 



    Apparently filled with ****, the growth exploded on impact and shot milky substance out the exit side. The entire blood trail was a mixture of blood and ****. All the way to the deer. 










    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,141 Senior Member
    Well done! Congratulations on that milestone buck!
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 8,527 Senior Member
    So happy for you guys!
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,772 Senior Member
    Well done and congratulations.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,561 Senior Member
    Here is the inside of the chest cavity. Entrance was on left side of picture (deer’s right) and exit on left side of picture. 

    The growth was attached to the side of the ridcage and had engulfed the deer’s left lung. Normally, I can cut the esophagus and arteries, then just pull the thoracic organs right out. But, this growth has such a hold on the ribs that I had to cut them out. 

    Obviously it was full of something that drained as the bullet passed through. 

    Any my thoughts on what it could have been to be inside the chest cavity, so large, and to have engulfed the lung so much?


    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,561 Senior Member
    Entrance (right at top of heart). 



    Exit through the mass on the left side. 



    Under the mass. 



    Exit under hide. 



    The slowed down SST was not as dramatic but I expected that. Between good shot placement and enough expansion, it did the job. 

    His next pistol hunt hunt will be with the .30-30 Contender and the 110gr Varmegeddon bullet. 

    Will be interesting to see the comparrison. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,572 Senior Member
    Congrats to the boy on a nice shot. As to the deer I think i'd be a bit Leary of keeping that meat. That's a huge amount of infection it was carrying around. Is there any presence of Bovine Tuberculosis in your area?  
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,561 Senior Member
    Not that I’m aware. 
    The meat is in a cooler with ice. Gonna ask the local vet and show them the pics tomorrow. See what they say and recommend. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,141 Senior Member
    Encysted foreign body or possibly a subaceous cyst.....did the pus have a really nasty, cheesy odor?  I have seen pictures of really large lesions associated with Bovine TB but there are generally multiple lesions

    https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-350-79136_79608_85016-99064--,00.html
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,561 Senior Member
    No overwhelmingly strong smell. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,289 Senior Member
    A good day in the blind hey, hope the meat is OK.
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    A half hour is long time to keep still and focused. My heart's racing just thinking about that long of a wait.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,561 Senior Member
    And he was sitting on my legs that whole time!!!  😳
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,396 Senior Member
    Nice!  You've done a wonderful job teaching him how to shoot deer.  When he's had his fill of that, he can come stomp around my area and we can build him some character!  ;)

    I wonder if the deer had something pierce his rib cage at some point that got some cootie growing in there.  Remember your pimple shot from a couple years back?  BLECH!
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,146 Senior Member
    nice hunt---tell your son congrat
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    That boy...his new name is Heartbreaker. Or "You Give Love a Bad Name".
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    -Thomas Paine
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 8,527 Senior Member
     I doubt if I would keep that meat  myself 
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,561 Senior Member
    Yeah. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    Congrats to your boy and you.  Well done!
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,561 Senior Member
    This is what I made for the boy. Drilled holes through the antlers and spent case. Engraved the date and “Pistol” on the case and strung them all together. 


    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,772 Senior Member
    That is a really neat idea.
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,591 Senior Member
    Congrats to the boy, and to dad as well.   Nice job by everyone, and that is the coolest trophy I've ever seen.  
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  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Perfectly placed shot.  Wow.  The only thing more impressive is that quantity of **** that he unleashed.  *barf*
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,365 Senior Member
    edited October 2018 #27
    Congratulations to your son and to you Zee for being the Dad you are. I love reading hunting reports about the next generation.

    Re the 'cyst', I am surprised you didnt pre boil it, then slice and grill it over the coals of an open fire..........

    All that looks bad, isnt necessarily unpalatable..........I mean, whoever first opened an oyster probably didnt think 'That looks yummy, lets eat it raw' even though it looked like something that came from a kids nasal passage............. ;)

    (Like the trophy btw)
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,141 Senior Member
    The first guy to eat an oyster probably did a bunch of other sketchy stuff....
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 5,038 Senior Member
    Great post and pics, I live vicariously with my kids 30-40 years ago thru your stories and pics with your son, thanks.

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
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