Always check your/others guns to make sure they are not loaded

Big ChiefBig Chief Senior MemberPosts: 32,985 Senior Member
Safety safety safety. While at home in my FLA house for Christmas, I went around and gathered my guns up o look at, photographed some and hold and swap out with TX guns after a year without them.

Except for the ones I leave loaded for Mrs Chief/daughter when she comes up to visit, I never leave one loaded for storage or, at least, I thought so. When I retrieved my CZ 52 7.62X25 Tok pistol, I undid the Velcro and pulled it out of its storage rug and to my surprise as I pulled back the slide and was looking for it to lock back on any empty magazine I saw it chamber a round.

I quickly safed it, removed the magazine and then ejected the live cartridge. Thankfully, I had it pointed in a safe direction while I handled it pointed away from family members at the floor. They were quite surprised to see a round fly out when I cycled the slide and I sheepishly mumbled something to the effect of, I don't remember putting it in condition three last time I was home.

Man, did that grab my attention.........it could have been a tragedy of enormous proportions that I would have never been able to forgive myself for if I would have done something really unsafe and stupid like not pay attention to what I was doing and just racked the slide and snapped off what I thought would have been a "Dry Fire" in their direction.

It gave me cold chills just thinking about that situation. So please check and recheck all your guns and remember safety first and always.
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  • PFDPFD Senior Member Posts: 1,202 Senior Member
    I loaned a shotgun to a friend and when he brought it back I just set out in the garage (it's a beater) which still isn't the best place to keep it.

    Months later I picked it up to clean it and there was a round in it ready to go.

    Rule #1 was in effect and I was checking it to make sure it was empty since I picked it up so yeah, safety always.

    Glad you were exercising good sense!
    That's all I got.

    Paul
  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 8,590 Senior Member
    Great reminder, glad to hear you followed proper safety protocols and kept pointed in a safe direction and checked the chamber.
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  • 1965Jeff1965Jeff Senior Member Posts: 1,597 Senior Member
    As a rule I clear all weapons brought inside the house, then clear them again when ever I take them out of the safe.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 14,837 Senior Member
    It's understood around here that if there is a gun in the house....it's likely loaded...all basic safety precautions apply ALWAYS
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  • SlanteyedshootistSlanteyedshootist Senior Member Posts: 3,947 Senior Member
    Good advice Chief.
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,672 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    It's understood around here that if there is a gun in the house....it's likely loaded...all basic safety precautions apply ALWAYS
    Same here.
    My house's rules:
    Rule 1, every gun is loaded (and if it's not in the safe or getting ready to go to the range, I REALLY mean "It's loaded" )
    rule 2 - Any pocket knife you find is razor sharp

    When it comes to looking at, or showing someone one of my firearms, I'll check it and lock it open, open the cylinder or break it open depending on its action. If someone hands me one with the action closed, I don't care if I watched them clear it, my FIRST course of action is to clear it myself.


    Glad you were following the safety rules BC. Scared is a LOT better than either "hurt" or "guilty"
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  • gatorgator Senior Member Posts: 1,689 Senior Member
    I live alone and rarely have visitors and do keep several loaded guns in various locations about the house.
    Even though I know what is loaded and what is not I still check any gun I pick up.
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  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    Thanks for the excellent heads up, Big. We all need to keep the thought "always assume it's loaded" primarily in our minds.

    Living alone, I find myself with several pistols lying around the place, easy reach depending where I am. I've always told my stepsons and friends that should I get injured or sick without warning, be very careful entering my place, and simply assume that all the guns are loaded and ready to fire.

    Like many of us, I grew up in a "gun" household and I was always taught that the gun was loaded, check it first, every time.

    Thanks again for the valuable reminder.

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  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,468 Senior Member
    See. Perfect case for the loaded chamber indicator...... :tooth:
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  • gunwalkergunwalker Member Posts: 470 Member
    Years ago I had two cousins who owned a hardware store. They carried new and used guns and always looked for a good trade. One day a man brought in a nice bolt action rifle to trade. He said "it's not loaded". One cousin pointed it toward one of those round surveillance mirrors that were common and squeezed the trigger. The gun fired and took out the mirror and a section of block. They took the gun in trade since they saw that that it worked well and charged the guy for damages that equalled the value of the trade. Stupidity really can have a price.
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  • PFDPFD Senior Member Posts: 1,202 Senior Member
    gunwalker wrote: »
    One cousin pointed it toward one of those round surveillance mirrors that were common and squeezed the trigger. The gun fired and took out the mirror and a section of block. They took the gun in trade since they saw that that it worked well and charged the guy for damages that equalled the value of the trade. Stupidity really can have a price.

    Sound unfair to charge someone else for your cousins failure to follow simple rules of safety?
    That's all I got.

    Paul
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,465 Senior Member
    I don't understand this need to squeeze the trigger of every gun you handle, but even given that tendency, why anyone would do that without checking the chamber first is beyond my comprehension.
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  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 1,825 Senior Member
    I always check the chamber of every gun I handle. It should become second nature, or in my eyes, that person shouldn't be handling firearms. You never know when there will a loaded chamber.

    It's a violation of the primary rule of firearm safety. Every gun is always loaded.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,985 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 wrote: »
    I don't understand this need to squeeze the trigger of every gun you handle, but even given that tendency, why anyone would do that without checking the chamber first is beyond my comprehension.

    It's like Charmin, you wanna squeeze it/ her.. (like in the Johnny Carson skits)
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,985 Senior Member
    Tugar wrote: »
    I always check the chamber of every gun I handle. It should become second nature, or in my eyes, that person shouldn't be handling firearms. You never know when there will a loaded chamber.

    It's a violation of the primary rule of firearm safety. Every gun is always loaded.

    DITTO
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Great reminder, An old (Elderly) friend of mine was clowning around with a WW-ll Luger and pointed it at Me, I asked him to check the chamber and it was loaded, had he pulled the trigger, I might not be posting this now.
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  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Senior Member Posts: 5,458 Senior Member
    Complacency can kill. It is easier to be slack with a gun that is your own when you think you left it a certain way. Man, there just ain't eye openers like loaded chambers....
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  • bruchibruchi Senior Member Posts: 2,582 Senior Member
    Loaded defense meant guns NEVER go into the safe, no point in putting something you will need in a hurry inside a locked box, still they are checked right before when put in and first thing when taken out.

    Outside IPSC matches where you cannot walk around with a loaded gun, loaded and ready to go defense handguns belong in holsters so by the same token any gun that is inside a holster is loaded and ready to go. loaded, ready to go shotgun goes into a scabbard, same would apply to a rifle. Everyone in the house is very aware of this and they are not kept on plain sight but very handy.
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  • JeeperJeeper Senior Member Posts: 2,952 Senior Member
    I #ALWAYS# treat every gun as if it is loaded.

    Good reminder though Big Chief.

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  • tv_racin_fantv_racin_fan Senior Member Posts: 617 Senior Member
    Tugar wrote: »
    I always check the chamber of every gun I handle. It should become second nature, or in my eyes, that person shouldn't be handling firearms. You never know when there will a loaded chamber.

    It's a violation of the primary rule of firearm safety. Every gun is always loaded.

    I love it when I check to make sure it aint loaded then hand it to my wife or son and first thing they do is CHECK to be sure it aint loaded. I also cringed when I handed my BIL my revolver and he didn't bother to check until I reminded him...

    I generally wont dry fire at the gun shop unless I intend to buy it. The other day I was checking out a rifle and the guy said go ahead dry fire it.. Ok I know he had checked it and I checked it but I ran the bolt again and made sure it weren't loaded before doing so and it was a sweet trigger like he said it was...
  • lightkeeperlightkeeper Member Posts: 168 Member
    Good reminder Big Chief. We all need to be aware of condition at all times.
    Many years ago I was responsible for a negligent discharge that almost hit a friend.
    Ever since I religously adhere to the idea "always presume a weapon is loaded" until I'm convinced otherwise.
  • CaptainRoadBlockCaptainRoadBlock Member Posts: 49 Member
    Basic rules handed down from my father to me, and from me to my girls:
    1. All guns are loaded
    2. All guns you just unloaded are STILL loaded, so dont point them at anything you dont want to kill.
    3. NEVER accept a firearm from anyone unless they have cleared the action first and handed it to you action open.
    4. The primary safety on every weapon is located between your ears.
    So Officer, why did you shoot my client 8 times? Uh, the magazine ran dry.
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,465 Senior Member
    bruchi wrote: »
    Outside IPSC matches where you cannot walk around with a loaded gun, loaded and ready to go defense handguns belong in holsters so by the same token any gun that is inside a holster is loaded and ready to go. Everyone in the house is very aware of this and they are not kept [in] plain sight but very handy.

    This is my SOP, and I think it's a sound practice to enforce.
    Knowledge is essential to living freely and fully; understanding gives knowledge purpose and strength; wisdom is combining the two and applying them appropriately in words and actions.
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