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The Last Warsaw Ghetto resistance fighter passes.

bullsi1911bullsi1911 ModeratorPosts: 11,143 Senior Member
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,748 Senior Member
    RIP.

    I've read Auschwitz survivor Thomas Buergenthal's memoir. Not a Warsaw resident, but an unforgettable read none the less.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,640 Senior Member
    My he dance in joy!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,727 Senior Member
    I read Mila 13, think it was, by Leon Uris.  It was about the Warsaw Uprising.
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  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 4,958 Senior Member
    RIP Mr. Rotem

    A handful of Jewish fighters with limited guns and ammo were able to hold off the German army from April 19 to May 16, 1943, and today since its inception Israel is an armed nation, my question is why are so many Jewish people in the U.S. so anti gun ???

    JAY
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    RIP Mr. Rotem.
    He and the others that refused to go quietly were all heroes for their stand against a genocidal madman. Took a lot of courage for them to make that stand.
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,903 Senior Member
    A true hero, RIP
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,727 Senior Member
    Correction: Mila 18.  And I think so many Jews are opposed to gun ownership because they were herded into death camps by people with guns.  And they were forbidden to own firearms for decades/centuries before so they didn't have a gun culture.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,026 Senior Member
    The ones you hear from are anti-gun. The "silent majority" are armed to the teeth. They don't get much air time. Personal knowledge...my wife is Jewish. You're more likely to get perforated while attempting bad deeds in a synagogue than in a Southern Baptist Church in North Louisiana.

    Mike
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,706 Senior Member
    RIP
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    edited December 2018 #11
    The Polish people suffered a lot. Both at the hands of the Germans and then the Russians.

    Stalin the rotten SOB he was, had his Army outside Warsaw toward the end of the war and told them to stand fast as Polish resistance fighters were fighting the Germans and with some help from Stalin they could have defeated them. Instead he thought if he helped them they would be a problem for him to carry out his plans and make Poland a communist country.

    So he waited until the resistance was smashed and then went in to 'free' Warsaw.


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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,640 Senior Member
    As bad as Hitler was, Stalin was worse. A lot worse.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,249 Senior Member
    Big Chief said:
    The Polish people suffered a lot. Both at the hands of the Germans and then the Russians.

    Stalin the rotten SOB he was, had his Army outside Warsaw toward the end of the war and told them to stand fast as Polish resistance fighters were fighting the Germans and with some help from Stalin they could have defeated them. Instead he thought if he helped them they would be a problem for him to carry out his plans and make Poland a communist country.

    So he waited until the resistance was smashed and then went in to 'free' Warsaw.


    The Wiki on "Warsaw Ghetto Uprising" is worth reading as it's a stark reminder that WWII was a lot more complicated than "Nazis vs. Everybody Else".  The Polish resistance in Warsaw was largely headed up by TWO political factions - the socialist-leaning ZOB, and the more right wing ZZW.  The ZZW was backed by remnants of the Polish military and probably provided most of the weapons used by the resistance, but their involvement was heavily edited out of the record by postwar Soviet revisionism.

    You have to figure that Stalin's administration scratched their collective heads and concluded that it would be more cost-effective long term to fight a stand-up military battle against a foreign army wearing conspicuous German uniforms than get into the mud local fighting partisans that can melt into the surrounding populace.  Better to let your "OTHER" enemy die sorting that mess out.

    Really just a continuation of the same balkanized mess that kicked of WWI 30 years prior, but no question - in that period, it sucked to be Polish.
    WWJMBD?

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