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• bisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member

  February 2019 #2

  Obviously, the positive economic benefits are just a delayed reaction to Barack Obama's wise leadership.
  

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• Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,514 Senior Member

  February 2019 #3

  I don't even watch "new" anymore, it just pisses me off. Ten minutes of Trump bashing, then a story about some poor oppressed minority, then how some "undocumented alien's" are denied their "constitutional rights"!! 

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• earlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member

  February 2019 #4

  Thank God I haven't been duped by 98% of established broadcast media and the conspiratorial collusion of fabricated fake news aimed at the persecutory defamation of our great leader.
  
  And may I be eternally grateful for the reliable,  and trust worthy news source of social media and the honest 2% it represents.
  
  I can only hope that if we just keep repeating the same truth enough times, eventually people will believe it.

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• zorba Senior Member Posts: 25,036 Senior Member

  February 2019 #5

  What big al said.
  

  -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"
  
  

  "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

  )O(
  

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• Antonio Senior Member Posts: 2,986 Senior Member

  February 2019 #6

  Forgot no real threats to the 2nd. amendment from the executive branch (At least none I'm aware of).
  
  Mind borrowing us the guy for a while when you're finished with him?

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• bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,072 Senior Member

  February 2019 #7

  Antonio said:

  Forgot no real threats to the 2nd. amendment from the executive branch (At least none I'm aware of).
  
  Mind borrowing us the guy for a while when you're finished with him?

  Well, the ATF banned bump-stocks with the support of the NRA.  

  To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
  -Mikhail Kalashnikov

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• breamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,887 Senior Member

  February 2019 edited February 2019 #8

  bullsi1911 said:

  Well, the ATF banned bump-stocks with the support of the NRA.  

  And we have an Attorney General (Executive Branch) nominee who is in favor of "red flag" laws (endorsed by the NRA and some Congressional Republicans), and who was involved in this:
  
  https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/william-barrs-connection-to-ruby-ridge-defending-fbi-snipers/
  
  

  I'm just here for snark.

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• tennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member

  February 2019 #9

  And those 'red flag' laws deny due process. Guilty until proven innocent.
  

    “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
  ― Douglas Adams
  

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• bisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member

  February 2019 #10

  breamfisher said:

  bullsi1911 said:

  Well, the ATF banned bump-stocks with the support of the NRA.  

  And we have an Attorney General (Executive Branch) nominee who is in favor of "red flag" laws (endorsed by the NRA and some Congressional Republicans), and who was involved in this:
  
  https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/william-barrs-connection-to-ruby-ridge-defending-fbi-snipers/
  
  

  Barr is my least favorite choice for AG, out of many good possible candidates. I assume that Mitch McConnell has offered a list to Trump of all of the Bush era establishment types that Democrats won't mount a Kavanaugh style firestorm against. I only had to watch the confirmation hearings to understand that he is just as political as his predecessors. The Democrats never worked up much of a lather over him, indicating that they don't see him as a reformer that will clean up the Justice Department. I suppose that he would have to be better than having assistant AG Rosenstein in charge, but I am not expecting to like him in the job.
  

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• coolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,632 Senior Member

  February 2019 #11

  He'll be an awesome AG, so long as he's an "R".
  
  
  Yes, that was sarcasm. 
  
  Setting the bar at "Rosenstein" is setting it awfully low.  Just sayin' 

  "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
  George Carlin

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• bisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member

  February 2019 #12

  True, but if Trump cannot make McConnell fight for the nominee, he won't get one, at all, leaving Rosenstein in place. And Mitch won't even take a vote unless it's a slam dunk. The best Trump can hope for is an establishment Washington DC lawyer who doesn't owe anything to the Democrats. He, too, has to accept the lesser of the evils, sometimes.
  

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• DanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,395 Senior Member

  February 2019 #13

  I forgot the re-energized steel industry. On the gun front, time will tell, but with New York and California and Oregon... if that virus spreads all bets are off... 

  It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain

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• tennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member

  February 2019 #14

  DanChamberlain said:

  I forgot the re-energized steel industry. On the gun front, time will tell, but with New York and California and Oregon... if that virus spreads all bets are off... 

  The East and Left Coasts are lost causes. The very large DEMOCRAT controlled cities controll the state governments with their massive representation and influence over the legislatures, and elect the governors. Everyone outside those cities are nothing but tax slaves to the big cities that control the governments.
  

  
  

  And those last two sentences are what would happen to the whole country if the Electoral College is abolished by either Constitutional Amendment or state action to force all electors to vote in accordance with the popular vote. Hang onto your hats, boys, the ride is about to get interesting as some states have already done it, and more state legislatures are jumping aboard the Abolish The Electoral College 'concentration camp' train
  

  
  

    “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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• bisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member

  February 2019 #15

  The electoral college has definitely followed a convoluted process to get to where it is at, now. But, the gist of it is that individual votes are counted within each state to determine which presidential candidate has won that state, and the electors of that state are bound to the casting of those electoral votes for that candidate.

  
  

  That is the only way that has been devised, so far, in which the individual states can maintain their sovereignty and be properly represented against the states with the heavy population centers. Without it, there is absolutely no incentive for the more rural states to remain in 'the union.' Like all big government solutions, it just barely works, and there are legitimate arguments from both sides, with the final compromise displeasing whichever party can win the popular vote, at any given time. The Constitutional amendment process is also convoluted, intentionally. The fact that the process is so difficult is all that provides a buffer against the most harmful radicalism.
  

  
  

  California is a perfect example of what happens to a large minority that cannot overcome the big city population numbers. It is also a perfect example of how straight-line majority rule that ignores the wants and needs of the minority is not what the Constitution intended. Neither was the 3/5 rule that Jerm mentioned, but that is the type of law you get when the radicals of each side prevent the 'cooler heads' from prevailing.
  

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