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• Old Ron Senior Member Posts: 4,275 Senior Member

  February 2019 #2

  I feel that once you jump off the cliff ...... no second chance . Why let a indoctrinated terrorist back in . We have way to many now that need to go so why add one more to the watch list ?
  

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• earlyagain Posts: 6,783 Senior Member

  February 2019 edited February 2019 #3

  That reads as complexed.
  
  There could easily be young American soldiers that dont get a choice because of her terrorist activity.
  
  Also Trump and Pompeo would obviously have more detailed information than the press.
  
  On the otherhand she may be more useful here than elsewhere in the fight against terrorism.
  
  Seems like its best to leave the decision up to those that have already made it.

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• jbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,188 Senior Member

  February 2019 #4

  
  
  Even if this is fake, it is the ideology she ran to.....

  "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson

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• Make_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,738 Senior Member

  February 2019 edited February 2019 #5

  Let her sorry ass rot in the hellholes she ran to in the beginning. I do not have 1 gram of pity for this worthless dog-turd on a stick!! The Brits are having the same issue with one of their own too. I imagine the American commie-democraps are going to fight this tooth and nail.
  

  JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
  

  THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!

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• Bigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,333 Senior Member

  February 2019 #6

  Sounds like a classic case of rushing off to fight "American injustice" only to learn that she hadn't seen anything like injustice until she got abroad.
  
  Let's make a deal honey; you give us actionable intelligence on where to send snatch teams or drop smart bombs, and THEN we can talk about your terms of entry.  The radio tracker wrapped around your ankle is non-negotiable.

  WWJMBD?
  
  "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee

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• Accipiter New Member Posts: 886 Senior Member

  February 2019 #7

  No!

  Apparently free thought is punished, and conformity is required, while peckerless cowards run the show.
  
  ECHO...ECHO....echo...
  
  Ah......One savors the hypocrisy!
  
  Karma.........It’s a bitch.

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• zorba Senior Member Posts: 23,837 Senior Member

  February 2019 #8

  I was aware of the British woman, but hadn't heard of this one. I'd say *maybe* if there's useful intel to be had, otherwise, "too bad, so sad".
  

  -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"
  
  "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  

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• Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,058 Senior Member

  February 2019 #9

  I say NO, however there is a child involved, that is a US citizen. With that I say more info is needed.

  Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5

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• tennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,442 Senior Member

  February 2019 #10

  Yes. Bring her back to the U.S...........................with a 20 year layover at Guantanamo Bay.
  

    “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
  ― Douglas Adams
  

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• jbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,188 Senior Member

  February 2019 #11

  Diver43 said:

  I say NO, however there is a child involved, that is a US citizen. With that I say more info is needed.

  According to the lawyerese I saw, she was the daughter of a Diplomat and is not a US citizen by birth.......No way the kid can be a citizen

  "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson

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• Linefinder Moderator Posts: 7,167 Senior Member

  February 2019 #12

  Hmmmm.... I've got to put this in a personal perspective for a second............
  
  I was a 19 YO Marine NCO willing to sacrifice all for my country.
  
  She was a 19 YO willingly squeezing out more terrorists.
  
  I'm terribly conflicted.
  
  Mike

  "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
  N454casull
  

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• JerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,049 Senior Member

  February 2019 #13

  I say yes.  Let her back in, and then arrest and prosecute her for treason the second she sets foot on US soil.  Let's see how agreeable she is to those conditions.

  If she wants to claim birthright citizenship, and let's treat her like any other citizen who has committed treason.
  

  Jerry
  
  Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.

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• CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,822 Senior Member

  February 2019 #14

  JerryBobCo said:

  I say yes.  Let her back in, and then arrest and prosecute her for treason the second she sets foot on US soil.  Let's see how agreeable she is to those conditions.

  If she wants to claim birthright citizenship, and let's treat her like any other citizen who has committed treason.
  

  Yep, let her back and make an example out of her.

  I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11

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• Jayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,005 Senior Member

  February 2019 #15

  Actions have consequences....karma is a bitch...

  Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"

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• Jermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,131 Senior Member

  February 2019 #16

  JerryBobCo said:

  I say yes.  Let her back in, and then arrest and prosecute her for treason the second she sets foot on US soil.  Let's see how agreeable she is to those conditions.

  If she wants to claim birthright citizenship, and let's treat her like any other citizen who has committed treason.
  

  That is my thoughts.
  

  Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.

  -Thomas Paine

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• Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,058 Senior Member

  February 2019 #17

  Jayhawker said:

  Actions have consequences....karma is a bitch...

  100% Correct
  On the news the other days she wants to return and knows she will be prosecuted. Documents need to be reviewed, determine if she is a citizen. If yes bring her home and make an example of her and take proper care of the child. If not, let her rot over there.

  Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5

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• Elk creek Senior Member Posts: 6,543 Senior Member

  February 2019 #18

  She made her choice. She can live under the system she left the United States for. 
  

  Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.

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• Teach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member

  February 2019 #19

  Yes, bring her back.  Let her visit the World Trade Center reflecting pools- - - - - -

  
  

  From 10,000 feet altitude

  
  

  Without a parachute.
  

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• Buford Senior Member Posts: 6,713 Senior Member

  February 2019 #20

  Jayhawker said:

  Actions have consequences....karma is a bitch...

  This
  

  Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.

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• FFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member

  February 2019 #21

  Why is this even a question in today’s times? Leave her there or put a bullet in her here. Don’t care about her kid either. Not my problem.

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• jbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,188 Senior Member

  February 2019 #22

  More than likely she was happy to be there until they started measuring her kid up for a new vest..................
  
  
  

  "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson

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• KSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,249 Senior Member

  February 2019 #23

  She made her choice. 

  The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY

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• sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,933 Senior Member

  February 2019 #24

  JerryBobCo said:

  I say yes.  Let her back in, and then arrest and prosecute her for treason the second she sets foot on US soil.  Let's see how agreeable she is to those conditions.

  If she wants to claim birthright citizenship, and let's treat her like any other citizen who has committed treason.
  

  
  What a coincidence. Yesterday I watched a fairly accurate documentary on the Cold War. It addressed the Rosenbergs who were tried, convicted, and executed for espionage/treason. HO-da may want to reconsider her dubious US citizenship. 

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• das68 Posts: 662 Senior Member

  February 2019 #25

  from the Australian Spectator

  
  

  https://www.spectator.com.au/2019/02/isis-milfs-want-back-in/

  
  

  Islamic State bride Shamima Begum has been stripped of her British citizenship after showing no remorse for joining up with the terror group.

  Begum’s dual nationality — as both her parents are of Bangladeshi — reportedly cleared the way for today’s decision.

  Tasnime Akunjee, compared the radicalised youngster to a ‘traumatised’ First World War soldier in a TV interview.

  
  

  
  

  Muthana’s family lawyer, Hassan Shibly, told ABC News the young mother was “brainwashed” by ISIS and now feels “tremendous remorse.”

  “This is a young, vulnerable woman who was brainwashed and manipulated by monsters who took advantage of her,” Shibly said in an interview that airs on “Good Morning America” on Tuesday morning. “Hooda is absolutely disgusted by the person she became while under the spell.”

  
  
  
  
  

  
  

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• Fisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member

  February 2019 #26

  The point of contention is the claim that her father left his diplomatic position one month before she was born. If this is true, she should be allowed back in order to be executed for treason. If this proves not to be true, her and her son can stay in the refugee camp in Syria. Germany or the UK would probably accept her.

  snake284 wrote: »

  For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me

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• das68 Posts: 662 Senior Member

  February 2019 edited February 2019 #27

  Fisheadgib said:

   or the UK would probably accept her.

  Hoda Muthana was born in New Jersey in 1994 to a father who had recently been a Yemeni diplomat but whose diplomatic post had been terminated one month prior to her birth

  

  
  

  And it appears that the State Department has already considered that question and agreed that Muthana is a citizen because it issued her a U.S. passport on two separate occasions before reversing itself in 2016 when it revoked Muthana’s passport.

  No autocensor bypasses, please.
  
  Linefinder
  
  
  

  
  

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• das68 Posts: 662 Senior Member

  February 2019 #28

  das68 said:

  Fisheadgib said:

   or the UK would probably accept her.

  Hoda Muthana was born in New Jersey in 1994 to a father who had recently been a Yemeni diplomat but whose diplomatic post had been terminated one month prior to her birth

  

  
  

  And it appears that the State Department has already considered that question and agreed that Muthana is a citizen because it issued her a U.S. passport on two separate occasions before reversing itself in 2016 when it revoked Muthana’s passport.

  No autocensor bypasses but
  
  Linefinder
  
  
  

  Thank you for that but F*E*C*K*I*N*G is not a swear word in Ireland

  S*H*I*T is very small fish in the  United Kingdom
  

  but isolationism way to go.
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  

  
  

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• Linefinder Moderator Posts: 7,167 Senior Member

  February 2019 #29

  Das,
  
  Consider this your last warning.
  
  Linefinder

  "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
  N454casull
  

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