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German non Mauser trials rifle

das68das68 Posts: 662 Senior Member
edited March 2019 in General Firearms #1

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  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 7,823 Senior Member
    Interesting design but without the controlled feed, it couldn't compete with the '98. Kind of hard to double feed one of those!! It probably would have made a decent sporting rifle, though!!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    The bolt lugs locking into the barrel is something that has been copied by many manufacturers over the last century.
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  • das68das68 Posts: 662 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    The bolt lugs locking into the barrel is something that has been copied by many manufacturers over the last century.
    the dovetail barrel block looks very neat


  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,689 Senior Member
    Saw it this morning....nice rifle but hard to beat the Gew 98.
  • das68das68 Posts: 662 Senior Member
    Antonio said:
    Saw it this morning....nice rifle but hard to beat the Gew 98.
    the lee enfield did twice


  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    das68 said:
    tennmike said:
    The bolt lugs locking into the barrel is something that has been copied by many manufacturers over the last century.
    the dovetail barrel block looks very neat

    And that dovetail barrel block is VERY busy as to machining. Back when labor was cheap it was an option. Now it would add at least $100-150 to the price of a rifle.
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  • das68das68 Posts: 662 Senior Member
     they didn't have cnc machines then

  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,026 Senior Member
    I've milled dovetails on thousands of PLASTIC parts,and nary a one on steel. I hate 'em. With a passion. 

    Dovetails, done right, are cool. But they're extremely hard to get right. If I had to machine a truly accurate dovetail into mating parks, in steel,......well, add  $1K or 2. And you still not get it.

    Mike
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    I've milled dovetails on thousands of PLASTIC parts,and nary a one on steel. I hate 'em. With a passion. 

    Dovetails, done right, are cool. But they're extremely hard to get right. If I had to machine a truly accurate dovetail into mating parks, in steel,......well, add  $1K or 2. And you still not get it.

    Mike
    Other than milling dovetails for sights on barrels I've only done one large dovetail of mating parts. The dovetail cutters for sights are all a little shy on width, or so it seems, so you can either file out the dovetail on the barrel, or the sight to get a good tight fit.
    The mating dovetail for the big one was for a quick change toolpost I built for the lathe. Was 1.5" wide. And it was easy because of the 3/32" brass gib that is used to take up the 'wobbleicity' a highly technical machining term for 'it don't fit tight'. All lathes and milling machines I've ever worked on had gibs that have to be adjusted to take up wear that happens over time.
    I can't imagine making two parts dovetail tightly together without some file work.
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  • das68das68 Posts: 662 Senior Member
    edited March 2019 #11
    and the cartridge?



    although i think it would have been a 58mm not a 57mm


  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,689 Senior Member
    das68 said:
    Antonio said:
    Saw it this morning....nice rifle but hard to beat the Gew 98.
    the lee enfield did twice

    :D
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,249 Senior Member
    I'm really surprised the takedown method never caught on - that's some clever stuff.
    WWJMBD?

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  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,221 Senior Member
    The dust cover is a great idea. I like the rifle and wish it had at least caught on a little. Sounds like politics to a point. Yes the Mauser is controlled feed and most likely tipped the balance, but since the inventor was in on the commission rifle, that had to play a part. 

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