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  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,933 Senior Member

    What I do know is that shortly after getting his butt kicked by Ted Cruz in the 2018 Texas senatorial election, he very definitely stated he would not be running for president.  Now, he claims he is "born to run".

    Maybe he is no longer a pseudo-latino but has decided to channel Bruce Springsteen.


    Don't Mess With Texas!
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
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    While I agree with most of Trump's campaign stated goals, I feel strongly that he's been a complete idiot in his manner of attempting to bring them about. Maybe it's a new world, but I'd prefer a President who addressed his country via "normal" venues and not simply "tweet' to the world on Sunday morning ranting denials about what some "celebrity" said about him. 

    IMO, we have a meglomaniac idiot as president. Unfortunately, the only other choice we were offered was just as bad.

    Hard times have befallen our country when persons of character decline to even apply for the job.

    Mike
    I am frequently not pleased by Trump's behavior, but I have more or less accepted that he is getting the job done, even if it is by taking two steps forward, and one back.

    He has a thick skin, a good 'work ethic,' and seems to be more or less fearless, against a very nasty and biased press corps... and, he is an unapologetic capitalist. If he can make a major contribution towards saving American capitalism in this country, and stop the slide into the socialist morass, I will put up with his antics.

    When it comes right down to it, we are in a battle between American capitalism, which promotes wealth creation, against global socialism, which seeks to create scarcity, so that the government may then control everything, by rationing out the scarce goods and services to whomever they deem to be worthy...the perfect storm for creating dictatorships, especially if the masses are also given someone to hate.


  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,672 Senior Member
    edited March 2019 #34
    Or maybe he just watched the guy currently in the oval office...







    BULLSHEISSE!! You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel this time.....Trumps hand/arm gestures are miniscule compared to Betoff and Pelosi. My Urologist says she exhibits signs of Parkinsons disease with her jerky movements.
    You should be kissing Trump's ass for creating the conditions that has probably doubled your stock portfolio.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,403 Senior Member
    Or maybe he just watched the guy currently in the oval office...







    BULLSHEISSE!! You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel this time.....Trumps hand/arm gestures are miniscule compared to Betoff and Pelosi. My Urologist says she exhibits signs of Parkinsons disease with her jerky movements.
    You should be kissing Trump's ass for creating the conditions that has probably doubled your stock portfolio.
    Actually mine and everyone else's stock portfolios did much better under Obama and he didn't even have to give a trillion dollars corporate tax break to goose the markets. 

    Anyone want to take a bet? I'll bet a case of 9mm, 3000 rounds of 22lr or 500 rounds of .45 that by the end of his first term the percentage gains on the S&P will have been less under Trump than they were in Obama's first term.  Any takers? 
    But Obama DID send an airplane loaded with $400,000,000 in CASH to Iran for a hostage release. That is and has always been against U.S. policy. Obama did some pretty crazy hands and arms movements depending on the audience, too.

    Trump is a businessman, thinks in businessman terms, and as a businessman he will lash out at worthless anus chapeau actors and others that attack him. Kind of like one would throw rocks at a bunch of yapping anklebiter dogs nipping at ones heels, or punting them over the fence. And Twitter and other social media didn't really exist as a big platform until Obama, and he used it.

    As to betting on your stock portfolio mess, that is a fool's bet. IF you invested in aircraft, military contractors, and weapons manufacturers, then you couldn't lose under Obama. He bombed and droned the crap out of folk in the ME, and that made the 'military industrial complex' very profitable. Under Trump rebuilding the military that will also be true. If you were an idiot and invested in Solyndra and a few other Obama turkeys then you'd have lost your shirt and pants and been standing around in skivvies and flip flops! :D
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,749 Senior Member
    I just hope he uses whatever executive powers he has to stop the second amendment assaults.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,683 Senior Member
    As far as I'm concerned, Trump is the best thing that has happened to the GOP in my lifetime. I for one am SICK AND TIRED of "professional politicians" screwing everything up. Trump isn't PC, he calls them like he sees them - right or wrong. That's the way it should be.
    I don't agree with everything he says/does, although I do agree with most of it. No mealy mouthed PCBS and acting like a politician. He says what's on his mind, much like I do. I like that. I'm not too happy with his choice of a VP, but you gotta take the bad with the good. *shrug*
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 7,961 Senior Member

    My IRA, which is about 60% stocks, has done better under Trump than under Obama. 

    And say what you will about Trump, but he's about as far from being an idiot as OAC is from being a genius.

    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,052 Senior Member
    Poor choice of words on my part. I just wish Trump didn't feel compelled to lash out (on Twitter, of all places) at anyone/thing that disagrees with him.

    Sometimes cooler heads prevail.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,672 Senior Member
    edited March 2019 #40
    The last sentence of your lengthy post got the entire thing deleted.

    Refraining from personal attacks would help insure this doesn't happen again.

    Linefinder
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • MichakavMichakav Senior Member Posts: 2,736 Senior Member
    edited March 2019 #41
    S&P 500

    Obama: +54%

    Trump: +18%

    Dow Jones Industrial Average

    Obama: +47%

    Trump: +26%

    Nasdaq

    Obama: +82%

    Trump: +30%

    These numbers are all from inauguration day through the first 2 years of their presidencies. Admittedly Obama benefited from recovery from the massive crash under Bush and Trump inherited a stock market that had risen 8 straight years under Obama. Adjusting for degree of difficulty I'll at least give Trump some credit there.

    https://cabotwealth.com/daily/stock-market/stock-market-results-trump-vs-obama/
    I love how you cherry pick to try and prove your blurry points.  From the article you linked....

    "Obama essentially took office at a bottom, with nowhere to go but up. Despite being outgained by Obama in his first two years, the strong stock market performance since Trump’s election proves that the daily noise projecting Trump’s poisonous effect on stocks was not only overstated; it was simply incorrect."


  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    Trump is a businessman, thinks in businessman terms, and as a businessman he will lash out at worthless anus chapeau actors and others that attack him.
    Trump is no businessman. Well...maybe he is, but he isn't a very good one. He is actually a joke as a businessman. And lashing out is probably the dumbest thing he could do.

    Man-child is the proper term. I am not impressed with his business chops. He got a small loan of $1,000,000 from daddy? Try turning a $7500 inheritance into something. Then making it worth 20x that in 4 years.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,403 Senior Member
    S&P 500

    Obama: +54%

    Trump: +18%

    Dow Jones Industrial Average

    Obama: +47%

    Trump: +26%

    Nasdaq

    Obama: +82%

    Trump: +30%

    These numbers are all from inauguration day through the first 2 years of their presidencies. Admittedly Obama benefited from recovery from the massive crash under Bush and Trump inherited a stock market that had risen 8 straight years under Obama. Adjusting for degree of difficulty I'll at least give Trump some credit there.

    https://cabotwealth.com/daily/stock-market/stock-market-results-trump-vs-obama/
    "Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." "
    - Mark Twain's Own Autobiography: The Chapters from the North American Review


    Here's some REAL info.

     
    Now, lets take YOUR percentages.
    Nasdaq rose +82% under Obama.
    Say you invested $1,000 under Obama
    $1,000 + 82% = $1,820
    Under Trump it rose another 30%
    $1,820 + 30% = $2,366
    That's hardly chump change on an original $1,000 investment. And stocks continuing to rise in price without the value of the product also rising either by sales or price increases begs for a stock market crash like in the Depression.

    And Obama did come in when the stock market was depressed over 20% so his gains should be judged by where the stock market was when he took office. If you're in a hole, every step up out of the hole looks pretty good. Look at the actual trading numbers of Obama vs. Trump in the link I provided. They tell a better story than cherry picked numbers.
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    edited March 2019 #44
    An entertainer that plays a businessman? Yea. He is that. Someone on here told me a few years back that Trump filed bankruptcy 4 times because he was a "smart businessman" and I had no clue about business because I was apparently too stupid to see that screwing your lenders and partners was smart business.

    Anyway... please stop telling the joke that Trump is a good businessman. I haven't posted much here lately because I have been too busy taking care of business in a big way, but please carry on.

    Ignorance rocks!
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,403 Senior Member
    An entertainer that plays a businessman? Yea. He is that. Someone on here told me a few years back that Trump filed bankruptcy 4 times because he was a "smart businessman" and I was had no clue about business because I was apparently too stupid to see that screwing your lenders and partners was smart business.

    Anyway... please stop telling the joke that Trump is a good businessman. I haven't posted much here lately because I have been too busy taking care of business in a big way, but please carry on.

    Ignorance rocks!
    Trump owns over 500 LLC companies. Four bankruptcies filed on four companies. That's a pretty good record. If YOU had a business hemorrhaging money would you keep pouring money in, or file for bankruptcy for that company? Honest question.
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    edited March 2019 #46
    Yes I would, and did. My credit and honor is worth more than that. While I don't own 500 LLC's, I own 6. 5 of them do just fine. I have never ever screwed a partner or lender. The one that doesn't is for the .430 SJS and I figured it would never make money, but set up a company just in case. I absorbed it with my construction company to cover the costs.

    I pay my debts and honor my contracts-- convenient or not. I also honor the vows I made with my wife. My first and only wife. Convenient or not.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    edited March 2019 #47
    tennmike said:
    Trump owns over 500 LLC companies. Four bankruptcies filed on four companies. That's a pretty good record. If YOU had a business hemorrhaging money would you keep pouring money in, or file for bankruptcy for that company? Honest question.
    Honest question... if your business is hemorrhaging money, are you a good businessman? My guess is that it makes you a bad businessman. Not a pet project like the .430 SJS, but hundreds of millions like Trump screwed his investors for? There were real people backing him and they got screwed because he was incompetent.

    I never "renegotiated" with a construction subcontractor after the fact to save a few bucks either. As a construction subcontractor, I have dealt with people like that though. I will whore my wife and daughters before I put myself through that again. I don't deal with people like that anymore. I refuse to. 
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    I didn't start out as a multimillionaire either. I was a homeless high school dropout.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,403 Senior Member
    You're missing the point. Over 500 businesses and only 4 failures is less than  1% failure rate. Not too shabby a success rate for what is a multinational company. And with multi million dollar contracts, renegotiation of contracts goes on all the time across the board; Trump doesn't have a lock on that renegotiation thing. If you're gonna hate on Trump for renegotiation of contracts, then you're gonna have to hate on ALL the others, or look like a hypocrite. The government does that renegotiation thing all the time, too. Like the NAFTA and the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Trump renegotiated both of those and the playing field is more level now. I don't know anyone that would gripe about paying lower prices for goods, but I suppose they are out there somewhere.

    Your hatred of Trump is as obvious as a big deuce dropped in a punch bowl, and it's skewing your perception noticeably. Anyway, things could be worse; we could have had Hillary in the White house.
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,672 Senior Member
    The last sentence of your lengthy post got the entire thing deleted.

    Refraining from personal attacks would help insure this doesn't happen again.

    "Poor choice of words on my part. I just wish Trump didn't feel compelled to lash out (on Twitter, of all places) at anyone/thing that disagrees with him.

    Sometimes cooler heads prevail."
    Linefinder
    Yeah, don't we all make mistakes. Too bad I can't remember the worthwhile part, because it was worth keeping.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,052 Senior Member
    The last sentence of your lengthy post got the entire thing deleted.

    Refraining from personal attacks would help insure this doesn't happen again.

    "Poor choice of words on my part. I just wish Trump didn't feel compelled to lash out (on Twitter, of all places) at anyone/thing that disagrees with him.

    Sometimes cooler heads prevail."
    Linefinder
    Yeah, don't we all make mistakes. Too bad I can't remember the worthwhile part, because it was worth keeping.
    Your last sentence in your post was directly telling another forum member to kiss your ass.
     You know better. It's that simple.

    Linefinder
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,672 Senior Member
    edited March 2019 #52
    I honestly did not view it as an attack. We have different definitions of that. Maybe it would have sounded better if I invited him to affix his lips on my gluteus maximus.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
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