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VW in a Jeep

TugarTugar Senior MemberPosts: 2,330 Senior Member
edited August 2019 in Clubhouse #1
https://www.hotvws.com/content.php?contentID=151

https://www.cotybuilt.com/why.html


I can see the smoke pouring some some ears now. Seems like a great idea. 55 pounds lighter, more torque and better mileage. 
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Winston Churchill

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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,303 Senior Member
    I'm always up for Diesel-fication of gas vehicles. The TDI engine is great as long as one keeps a weather eye on the belt tensioners and timing belt. Saw another guy who put a MBZ diesel into a jeep.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • 10canyon5310canyon53 Member Posts: 2,122 Senior Member
    Zorba will be along shortly to sing (and belly-dance) the praises of a diesel.  :D

    I will say however, when torque is more important than horsepower (off-roading), diesel is the best option.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,303 Senior Member
    Beatcha!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • 10canyon5310canyon53 Member Posts: 2,122 Senior Member
    Dangit Zorba!  We must have been typing at the same time!
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,303 Senior Member
    Looks that way.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,346 Senior Member
    Might even be a reliable engine...not what you expect in a Jeep!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Jeep is supposed to introduce 2020 models with a diesel engine by, I believe Fiat, in the coming new model lineup. Anyway, they're adding diesel power to the lineup, and IT'S ABOUT TIME!
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,303 Senior Member
    Agreed, although they did supposedly have a diesel option for the Liberty if I remember correctly. If the Fiat diesel is as good as their "Multi-Air" gasoline engine, it'll be a good one! American car companies have never done well with diesels in cars, maybe this time?
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • 10canyon5310canyon53 Member Posts: 2,122 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Agreed, although they did supposedly have a diesel option for the Liberty if I remember correctly.
    You do remember correctly, it was the Liberty CRD.
  • N454casullN454casull Member Posts: 634 Senior Member
    The Grand Cherokee comes with the eco diesel as well. And I believe the Gladiator either already does or will next year. 
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,303 Senior Member
    How is the "Eco Diesel"? Any "talk on the street"?
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • N454casullN454casull Member Posts: 634 Senior Member
    The local farmers love the Ram 1500 with the eco diesel. You pretty much either see the eco diesel or any number of the “big” diesels. 
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,463 Senior Member
    This guy swapped in Harbor freight lawnmower engines int some old jeeps.  
    https://jalopnik.com/this-wrenching-genius-installed-lawnmower-engines-into-1835417201

    I like the dual 6.5 hp motor setup.  Pop the hood, yank on two flywheel cords and away you go!
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,303 Senior Member
    Which proves my point - 100 hp is plenty in a passenger vehicle, and you can get by with a lot less. Cool article!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 2,464 Senior Member
    This guy swapped in Harbor freight lawnmower engines int some old jeeps.  
    https://jalopnik.com/this-wrenching-genius-installed-lawnmower-engines-into-1835417201

    I like the dual 6.5 hp motor setup.  Pop the hood, yank on two flywheel cords and away you go!
    At 1st I thought there was no way that would work. Then I remembered that my lawnmower has a larger motor than my 8n tractor, hp wise.
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,330 Senior Member
    edited August 2019 #17
    zorba said:
    Which proves my point - 100 hp is plenty in a passenger vehicle, and you can get by with a lot less. Cool article!
    Until you watch the video and the owners says "I haven't tried it ( top speed). Because 40mph in this thing is scary." 

    For a grocery getter and general around town go-fer, I would agree. Take that up I-84, you are going to die.

    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,303 Senior Member
    Depends on its top speed- if it can keep up with traffic it'd be fine. If not, not so much. And it certainly doesn't take 400 hp to keep up with traffic - not even 100.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • GilaGila Posts: 1,828 Senior Member

    No good deed goes unpunished...
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,624 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Depends on its top speed- if it can keep up with traffic it'd be fine. If not, not so much. And it certainly doesn't take 400 hp to keep up with traffic - not even 100.
    If "40 is scary", I can't imagine things get better by trying to pour on more coals. 

    Just so we're clear:  I'm the kind of guy who will say I want "X" for reasons... and, when I'm told I don't need "X", I set about not only achieving "X", but exceeding it by a significant margin. 

    I don't give a single, solitary damn what somebody else thinks I need... and, neither should you. 
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,303 Senior Member
    True enough! Its just hard to get what I *do* need. I'm once again toying with the idea of yet another fifth wheel. If I "do it", there are certain things I won't compromise on - I've been involved with enough fifth wheels to know what works and what doesn't, and I know what I want. Everybody wants to sell me something else!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,560 Senior Member
    edited August 2019 #22
    A thorn in the side of American Toyotaphiles:  in the REST of the world you can get a diesel in one of THESE:



    In the U.S., not so much, though some have been smuggled in from Canada and S.A..

    My gas powered '78 was AWESOME in dirt, but rather gutless on pavement. . .and it was THIRSTY!!!
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,330 Senior Member
    edited August 2019 #23
    Bigslug, That was the point of the article. They are taking 90's era jeeps and stuff the TDi in there. Way more torque that weighs less AND 30-35 mpg.
    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,560 Senior Member
    Understood - if it's not legality, it's expense.  California's made me more than a little cranky on this topic.  While I still had my FJ-40, I looked into fuel injection conversions that would have increased my power, mileage, AND made it run cleaner - - all things that the green weenies claim to want.  But NOOOOOO!  The conversion kits all needed California Air Resources Board approval stickers before they'd pass the visual portion of your two-year smog check, which was hoops and expense the manufacturer of the conversion kits didn't want to deal with.

    So, even with a cleaner motor I've got to wonder how big a hassle this VW-Jeep conversion would be here.  Very cool - just be aware that our regional grapes are pretty sour. ;)
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,303 Senior Member
    I may or may not have seen people who kept an engine on a stand in the back of the garage that got swapped in for a week every other year when I lived in California. Its ridiculous - if the darn thing meets smog in the tailpipe, who cares what's under the hood?
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
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