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• 2Aman Member Posts: 332 Member

  May 26 #2

  
  

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• Zee Senior Member Posts: 23,778 Senior Member

  May 26 #3

  I have a blued 1300 Defender. 

  "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  

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• 2Aman Member Posts: 332 Member

  May 26 #4

  It seems like a fairly robust design. The stainless looks like a Cartel special 😄 but should help in a marine environment.  From what I have read they are fairly reliable. 

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• GunNut Posts: 5,565 Senior Member

  May 26 #5

  One of the fastest pump shotguns out there.  Often maligned by folks that don’t understand it, I had one for a while and loved it, you can dump the mag in a BIG hurry if needed.  Sold it to a buddy that desperately wanted a good HD gun, shouldn’t have.  It was a good close range brush gun.

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  General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  
  

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• 2Aman Member Posts: 332 Member

  May 26 #6

  Thats great info to know, I am happy to be getting it. 👍

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• earlyagain Posts: 6,748 Senior Member

  May 26 #7

  Oooooo! That shines!
  Did you get the rust of the 870???

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• 2Aman Member Posts: 332 Member

  May 26 #8

  Waiting on the 000 steel wool to come from Amazon. But, a good bore mop and some Hoppes 9, along with a good scrubbing with a brush helped alot. Still needs a little more work. 

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• earlyagain Posts: 6,748 Senior Member

  May 26 #9

  If you're frequenting salt water that shiny Winchester will rust too if its neglected for too long. Ive never actually seen the ocean. But a former member here that was a gunsmith posted a thread about cleaning some rusty Marine Magnums that were used at sea in an atmosphere of neglect.

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• 2Aman Member Posts: 332 Member

  May 26 #10

  Your 100 % correct. Its hell on my tools. Have to keep a light coat of oil on them almost daily. Its brutal. 

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• Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,797 Senior Member

  May 26 #11

  2Aman said:

  Your 100 % correct. Its hell on my tools. Have to keep a light coat of oil on them almost daily. Its brutal. 

  As much as it has been raining I am surprised your not underwater.
  Gulf on one side Atlantic on the other you need to keep up on maintenence
  That is a handy shotgun

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• 2Aman Member Posts: 332 Member

  May 26 #12

  Thanks, this rain has been horrible. Just stopped an hour ago. The dog wont go outside to do her business when its raining so its made for an eventful week to say the least 😄

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• bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,543 Senior Member

  May 26 #13

  I have a blued 1300 Defender as well; completely reliable.  Enjoy.

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• 2Aman Member Posts: 332 Member

  May 26 #14

  Thats great, sounds like I am picking up a nice shotgun. That bright finish is growing on me. 

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• Linefinder Moderator Posts: 6,920 Senior Member

  May 27 #15

  For $300 I'd be all over it.
  
  Mike

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• sakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,864 Senior Member

  May 27 #16

  I have a model 1300 deluxe 20 ga that is a very nice shooting gun. Swings pretty naturally. Really need to shoot it more.

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• Bigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,206 Senior Member

  May 27 #17

  Not my favorite, though honestly I fall into GunNut's category of it being my least familiar. But in fact it is pretty hard to screw up a pump gun, and cheap targets of opportunity are not to be walked away from.  If you need to get deep into it (and if you're playing with salt water, you will) just exercise a little caution with the ejector leaf spring on the left wall of your receiver - it's kind of fiddly and held on with a teeeeeeeensy little screw.  They ARE fast.
  
  Nice that the 1300 is actually stainless, as opposed to nickle plate.
  
  The 870's staked-in shell latches and ejector I would NOT want on a boat, as there's almost no truly cleaning under them.  It's a matter of flush thoroughly, oil thoroughly, and hope for the best while you lay awake nights never really KNOWING what's underneath.  The cheesy bead-blast-&-blue finish on an Express will rust if you cast even a foul glance at it.  Pretty much got to be a nickle Marine model, or a well-oiled Parkerized Police Magnum.
  
  The Mossberg is by far the easiest to render down to get into all the nooks and crannies.  The 590 is a slightly better bet than the 500 as the only major difference between the two is the 590's open-end magazine that allows stripping out the guts and cleaning the tube (you can in fact turn one into the other with the right parts).  You need to heat LocTite and unscrew the tube on the 500 to get inside those.

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• 2Aman Member Posts: 332 Member

  May 27 #18

  Thanks guys, all the info is much appreciated. As always, this board is a wealth of knowledge. 

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