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New Chris Brake!

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 23,539 Senior Member
If you recall, CPJ built a brake for my Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm after I was dissatisfied with a factory one I’d bought. I asked if he could build a two chamber (elongated), side discharge brake with two top ports as well. He did not disappoint for a first try. 


With my recent acquisition of the Ruger PC Charger Pistol in 9mm.........I was in need of another brake. But, I wanted something more diminutive to go along with the pistols reduced size. 
My request:
Shorter
No Flats
Single Chamber
Side Discharge
Top Port

And lets see how effective it would be. Well, I can dream and he can build. 




Not bad at all!
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith

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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,430 Senior Member
    You need to hold his hand and tell him he is pretty so he will come back and share these projects with us himself, very nice.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 425 Member
    Looks good. What material did he make it out of?
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,539 Senior Member
    It almost timed perfectly. Only 90deg off and required minimal shimming. 


    Installed, it looks right tidy and doesn’t add excessive length to the 6.5” barrel.


    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,539 Senior Member
    Looks good. What material did he make it out of?
    Stainless. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,425 Senior Member
    Both brakes look good!
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,539 Senior Member
    At the range, it was about an inch right and two inches low at 25 yrds from my original zero of one inch high (that’s why you always check zero after changing muzzle devices, kids). I decided to zero dead on at 25 yards this time and the brake proved decidedly accurate on a 6.5” barreled 9mm Pistol!!

    Wicked Accurate!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,232 Senior Member
    How do they perform from a muzzle rise / recoil perspective?
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,539 Senior Member
    The most important question, did it work?  For that, we needed slow motion and frame by frame. 









    If you look carefully at the muzzle AND the bolt.......you will see no rearward movement in discharge and as the bullet leaves the muzzle. Actually, an EVER so slight forward pull. But, as the bolt cycles back in extraction and the inertia of the massive bolt coming to an abrupt stop to the rear.......the pistol recoils slightly back and up. A simple case of physics induced by such a heavy bolt in motion. All that to say.......the brake did it’s job!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,539 Senior Member
    And since I do t YouTube, I sent the videos to Chris and he uploaded them for me. 






    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,430 Senior Member
    Do you think you would have similar results with the carbine if you used that pistol break on it?
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,539 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 said:
    Do you think you would have similar results with the carbine if you used that pistol break on it?
    I would assume. The 9mm is not a crazy high pressure round inducing excessive muzzle rise and recoil. Which is one of the reasons so many departments and agencies are returning to it. Folks can’t shoot worth a damn anything with greater recoil. 
    There is not question in my mind that his first dual port brake would be more efficient, but it’s not absolutely necessary for the 9mm cartridge. 
    The biggest enemy of this platform is the weight of the bolt and it’s cycle. It’s truly an odd recoil impulse. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,430 Senior Member
    Less cuts for CPJ, less time, less cost on the pistol brake, I like your results.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,539 Senior Member
    👍🏻
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 5,283 Senior Member
    Nice work!  That boy is talented...
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,662 Senior Member
    The video says it all. 👍
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,291 Senior Member
    Both brakes look really good! And since they both work well then that's even better. Glad I hammered on until he got a lathe, and later a milling machine. He's got talent!
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 3,809 Senior Member
    Looks good. Dude's got some skill...
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,122 Senior Member
    His machining skills have really come along.  Great little brake he turned out.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,387 Senior Member
    I dug up another one out of the archives. Chris is one of the most talented people who have ever graced these pages. I never gave him the credit he deserved until I saw some of the guns he made and brought to the 2017 shoot. I don't know if he'll ever come back here. Maybe he will. But I would bet he'll be at Jerry's for the shoot in November.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,204 Senior Member
    I need one of the pistol versions for my pc carbine. That would be sweet. 
    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,539 Senior Member
    Shoot him a text. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,387 Senior Member
    The shoot at Jerry's is in October, not November.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,204 Senior Member
    Since he isn't on he forum anymore, kind of hard to shoot him a text, unless I am missing something.

    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • AlleyCatAlleyCat Posts: 360 Member
    edited July 11 #25
    Tugar said:
    Since he isn't on he forum anymore, kind of hard to shoot him a text, unless I am missing something.


    It used to be you had but to mention his name three times and poof, he would appear.

    Can you still say poof?
    It seems you can.








  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,204 Senior Member
    Lol. I sent him a message. Finger crossed. 

    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,539 Senior Member
    if you’d you need help getting in touch with him, let me know and I’ll help. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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