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  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    Okay, dumb question.  Am I identifying this firearm correctly as a .32 H&R Mag?  That is what it was sold to me as (private sale).
    I thought the H&R designation mean Harrison and Richardson, the manufacturer.  I am also finding out that .32 H&R Mag can have a different meaning when referring to ammunition.  This is confusing.  Please help!
    Also, is this the correct brass to buy for handloading?  Considering how many "SOLD OUT" signs I see online, if this is the correct brass, I want to snatch it up.  https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/product/starline-32-h-r-mag-brass-100/
    Thanks for never making me feel dumb!

  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,161 Senior Member
    Harrington and Richardson
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    Jayhawker said:
    Harrington and Richardson
    Duh.  Thanks for the correction.  I just got typing too fast.
    So is that what this firearm actually is?  And is any brass labeled ".32 H&R Mag" the correct brass to use for handloading?
    Thanks.

  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,161 Senior Member
    Twinkle said:
    Jayhawker said:
    Harrington and Richardson
    Duh.  Thanks for the correction.  I just got typing too fast.
    So is that what this firearm actually is?  And is any brass labeled ".32 H&R Mag" the correct brass to use for handloading?
    Thanks.

    If that's what it says on the barrel, then it's the right brass.
    .
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    Cool!  Thanks.
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 4,746 Senior Member
    You can also pick up brass at Midway.

    In both 100 and 500 quantities. In Stock.

    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    edited September 2020 #248
    Spk said:
    You can also pick up brass at Midway.

    In both 100 and 500 quantities. In Stock.

    Thanks Spk!  Ordered 500.  On top of the 400 I ordered from Powder Valley and the rounds I have on hand, that's over 1000.  Good start!
    I'm meeting my instructor tomorrow and will zero in on primers, powder and bullets, and what kind of reloading equipment he recommends, and then I will embark on the reloading adventure!
    Oh, yeah.  And I'll spend the rest of today clearing out the craft/junk/storage room so I can set up my bench!

  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Twinkle said:
    Spk said:
    You can also pick up brass at Midway.

    In both 100 and 500 quantities. In Stock.

    Thanks Spk!  Ordered 500.  On top of the 400 I ordered from Powder Valley and the rounds I have on hand, that's over 1000.  Good start!

    That’s a solid 2-3 days of trigger time!!! 😁
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    edited September 2020 #250
    GunNut said:
    Twinkle said:
    Spk said:
    You can also pick up brass at Midway.

    In both 100 and 500 quantities. In Stock.

    Thanks Spk!  Ordered 500.  On top of the 400 I ordered from Powder Valley and the rounds I have on hand, that's over 1000.  Good start!

    That’s a solid 2-3 days of trigger time!!! 😁
    GunNut, I cannot wait! 
    Any advice/insight on weighing powder manually vs using a device that measures powder weight?  I've got a nice old German gold scale with counterweights that go from 1/2 grain to 4 troy ounces.

  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,161 Senior Member
    Buy a ChargeMaster...you won't regret it...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 4,746 Senior Member
    You might want to pick up a digital scale or balance beam that's accurate down to 1/10th of a grain. You'll frequently find loads like 2.5, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, etc...


    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,161 Senior Member
    Also recommend you start with a single stage press as opposed to a progressive...Load one round at a time and concentrate on quality vs quantity
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    Thanks Jayhawker and Spk for that advice!  I will pursue your suggestions.
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    Jayhawker said:
    Also recommend you start with a single stage press as opposed to a progressive...Load one round at a time and concentrate on quality vs quantity
    Yes, yes and yes!  In the little bit of research I have done, I have come to the same conclusion.  I am very much accustomed to painstaking, meticulous and repetitive tasking, and it makes great sense to concentrate on quality vs quantity.

  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Twinkle said:
    GunNut said:
    Twinkle said:
    Spk said:
    You can also pick up brass at Midway.

    In both 100 and 500 quantities. In Stock.

    Thanks Spk!  Ordered 500.  On top of the 400 I ordered from Powder Valley and the rounds I have on hand, that's over 1000.  Good start!

    That’s a solid 2-3 days of trigger time!!! 😁
    GunNut, I cannot wait! 
    Any advice/insight on weighing powder manually vs using a device that measures powder weight?  I've got a nice old German gold scale with counterweights that go from 1/2 grain to 4 troy ounces.

    Another vote for the Charge Master.  Faster and guaranteed accuracy of weight.  Weighing powder by hand is TEDIOUS!!!!! 
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    edited September 2020 #257
    GunNut said:
    Twinkle said:
    GunNut said:
    Twinkle said:
    Spk said:
    You can also pick up brass at Midway.

    In both 100 and 500 quantities. In Stock.

    Thanks Spk!  Ordered 500.  On top of the 400 I ordered from Powder Valley and the rounds I have on hand, that's over 1000.  Good start!

    That’s a solid 2-3 days of trigger time!!! 😁
    GunNut, I cannot wait! 
    Any advice/insight on weighing powder manually vs using a device that measures powder weight?  I've got a nice old German gold scale with counterweights that go from 1/2 grain to 4 troy ounces.

    Another vote for the Charge Master.  Faster and guaranteed accuracy of weight.  Weighing powder by hand is TEDIOUS!!!!! 
    I like guaranteed!


    RCBS 98923 Chargemaster Combo Scale/Dispenser

    This is on my list at Amazon.  I will check local sources because I want to give my money to local merchants instead of Amazon.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,161 Senior Member
    Even with a single stage, I can still crank out 100 rounds an hour once everything is set up...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    Jayhawker said:
    Even with a single stage, I can still crank out 100 rounds an hour once everything is set up...
    Pretty amazing!  Must be a groove or a rhythm, like dancing!  Zorba could get behind that!
    I kind of get into a canning rhythm, but that only lasts for 18 jars, because that's the number of half pints that fit in my canner at one time.

  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 8,545 Senior Member
    I love my Chargemaster's
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 2,421 Senior Member
    edited September 2020 #261
    The starter kits come with a powder charger and scale! Start simple!

    When I started 30 years ago the Lee Anniversary Kit had a balance beam scale, powder dispenser and the dies came with cup powder dispensers. 

    Look at her gun... it's not a target pistol or bench rifle. 

    Learn to drive a Pinto and you'll get a Mustang if and when you need it.
    I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter :wink:
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,642 Senior Member
    Twinkle said:
    Okay, dumb question.  Am I identifying this firearm correctly as a .32 H&R Mag?  That is what it was sold to me as (private sale).
    I thought the H&R designation mean Harrison and Richardson, the manufacturer.  I am also finding out that .32 H&R Mag can have a different meaning when referring to ammunition.  This is confusing.  Please help!
    Also, is this the correct brass to buy for handloading?  Considering how many "SOLD OUT" signs I see online, if this is the correct brass, I want to snatch it up.  https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/product/starline-32-h-r-mag-brass-100/
    Thanks for never making me feel dumb!

    Won't the gun shoot .32 S&W Long?  A lot less recoil, but they're hard to find.  A pleasant shooting round.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member



    Gene L said:
    Twinkle said:
    Okay, dumb question.  Am I identifying this firearm correctly as a .32 H&R Mag?  That is what it was sold to me as (private sale).
    I thought the H&R designation mean Harrison and Richardson, the manufacturer.  I am also finding out that .32 H&R Mag can have a different meaning when referring to ammunition.  This is confusing.  Please help!
    Also, is this the correct brass to buy for handloading?  Considering how many "SOLD OUT" signs I see online, if this is the correct brass, I want to snatch it up.  https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/product/starline-32-h-r-mag-brass-100/
    Thanks for never making me feel dumb!

    Won't the gun shoot .32 S&W Long?  A lot less recoil, but they're hard to find.  A pleasant shooting round.
    I am meeting my new instructor today and I will ask him.  I have a few boxes of .32 H&R Lead Semi Wadcutter, 95 gr, which I'll use for targets.  Anything that will shoot with less recoil would be welcome.

  • AlleyCatAlleyCat Posts: 484 Member
    Freezer said:
    The starter kits come with a powder charger and scale! Start simple!

    When I started 30 years ago the Lee Anniversary Kit had a balance beam scale, powder dispenser and the dies came with cup powder dispensers. 

    Look at her gun... it's not a target pistol or bench rifle. 

    Learn to drive a Pinto and you'll get a Mustang if and when you need it.

    What is wrong with you, are you some sort of communist?



    Jay said:
    Here's the most recent pic of my current setup. The two Dillons are mounted on Inline Fab mounts. The 38/357 press hard mounted on the stand on the right. The stand on the left is a quick change mount, so I can swap the 45 press out to use my RCBS, which is hanging on the storage bracket on the wall.  The blank plate to the left of the RCBS will be to mount a bench vise on. I also need to get a plate for the Lyman Turret press. The quick change stand also still needs the bracket and bin setup for empty cases and bullets. I have to say, if anyone is interested, check out Inline Fab either at Midway or their website.  They make some really cool stuff, not just reloading press stands and they are affordable, made in Texas, USA and ridiculously heavy duty. Addicting...




    For 38/357 read .32 S&W/.32 S&W Long/.32 H&R Mag.
    :#








  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 2,421 Senior Member
    AlleyCat said:
    Freezer said:
    The starter kits come with a powder charger and scale! Start simple!

    When I started 30 years ago the Lee Anniversary Kit had a balance beam scale, powder dispenser and the dies came with cup powder dispensers. 

    Look at her gun... it's not a target pistol or bench rifle. 

    Learn to drive a Pinto and you'll get a Mustang if and when you need it.

    What is wrong with you, are you some sort of communist?

    No, I'm a Republican  ;)

    That's some real nice equipment and a nice high volume system. I have some RCBS, Hornaday and had a Dillon 650.I believe she should look at cost vs payback. She has one gun, one caliber, she hasn't shot it much and doesn't even know if she'll like it. I'd encourage her to buy more guns to have fun with, a safe and a sportsman club membership where she can find more opportunities to shoot and hunt. Then think about reloading. Start simple then expand. Don't buy things she many never use.



    Jay said:
    Here's the most recent pic of my current setup. The two Dillons are mounted on Inline Fab mounts. The 38/357 press hard mounted on the stand on the right. The stand on the left is a quick change mount, so I can swap the 45 press out to use my RCBS, which is hanging on the storage bracket on the wall.  The blank plate to the left of the RCBS will be to mount a bench vise on. I also need to get a plate for the Lyman Turret press. The quick change stand also still needs the bracket and bin setup for empty cases and bullets. I have to say, if anyone is interested, check out Inline Fab either at Midway or their website.  They make some really cool stuff, not just reloading press stands and they are affordable, made in Texas, USA and ridiculously heavy duty. Addicting...




    For 38/357 read .32 S&W/.32 S&W Long/.32 H&R Mag.
    :#









    I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter :wink:
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    edited September 2020 #266
    Hey guys!
    I went shooting with an instructor for the first time today and shot a Ruger SR .22 and I loved it!  Most of my shots at first were pretty accurate, and then I started getting a little overloaded.  Switched to a S&W .22 revolver and you can see where my shots started going off to the right.  Then switched back to the Ruger with a laser for 10 rounds, including the head shots and the shots to the colored shapes.
    It convinced me that I like the Ruger .22 and when I go looking for another firearm, I think that's a good place to start.
    Range was 20 feet.


  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,766 Senior Member
    I'm not sure where a bowling pins heart is, but if I was a bowling pin.....I'd fear you a lot more than a bowling ball. ;)

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    I'm not sure where a bowling pins heart is, but if I was a bowling pin.....I'd fear you a lot more than a bowling ball. ;)

    Mike
    LOL!  There is a faint image of a few vital parts -- impossible to see in this photo.  I got plenty of heart shots in, although the heart was placed in a horrendously wrong place in this pseudo-anatomical representation!

  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,766 Senior Member
    edited September 2020 #269
    BTW....don't bother with head shots at this point, unless you're doing it for fun. Try for center mass every time at this point. Much like sharpening a knife.....you can hone your skills later. But much sooner than later than you expect.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Twinkle said:
    Hey guys!
    I went shooting with an instructor for the first time today and shot a Ruger SR .22 and I loved it!  Most of my shots at first were pretty accurate, and then I started getting a little overloaded.  Switched to a S&W .22 revolver and you can see where my shots started going off to the right.  Then switched back to the Ruger with a laser for 10 rounds, including the head shots and the shots to the colored shapes.
    It convinced me that I like the Ruger .22 and when I go looking for another firearm, I think that's a good place to start.
    Range was 20 feet.


    Hey, every single one of those shots would have produced a good effect against a BG.  Good for you!
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 12,259 Senior Member
    There you go. Its all about having fun.  Your not really working at it if your smiling.  Well done
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
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