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Ordered a new Trigger to play with.

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 24,514 Senior Member
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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1554248791?pid=599060



A 2oz-6oz No Safety Shilen Trigger. I was looking for a new trigger to put in my boy’s rifle and saw this one on sale/clearance with only one left in stock. It was a killer deal (not price above) and couldn’t pass it up with free shipping.

Plan is to put it in one of my rifles and put the existing trigger (likely a Timney or 40X Trigger) in my boys rifle. 

Just gotta decide which rifle I want to put this in.  In any case, it should be nice!
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • pjames777pjames777 Senior Member Posts: 1,421 Senior Member
    #2
    I'm sure this will tighten up your shooting deficiencies!  Like you have any.  I think I breath harder then two ounces.  Enjoy.
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  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 612 Senior Member
    #3
    I like the plan.
    Some people really like a nice trigger.  :smile:


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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,145 Senior Member
    #4
    Lets see, the average decently graded rifles trigger pull weight is 3.5 lbs?  3.5X16=56. Lets say you adjust yours to 3 oz.   Roughly 1/18th of what most people are used to.  To the average person that shoots now and then that is amazingly light.  I know I used to think so.  Then a guy we all  used to call CPJ let me shoot his rifle with a nice trigger and it made me smile.  So I did the same to one of mine a 10/22.  Then another forum brother let me shoot his hunting rifle with a really smooth and lightweight trigger.  Sixguns 300 was amazing to shoot. Luckily he had me dry fire it a few times to get the feel or i may have accidently touched it off.   I know folds that would call that light of a trigger stupid, dangerous, an accident waiting to happen.  BUT THEY ARE WRONG.  when handled properly they are as safe as any other gun.  call me jealous, you may have just given me another new things to look for and purchase.
    The Timney you recommended for my .223 bolt gun is nice, just maybe one like you ordered.........
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,392 Senior Member
    #5
    One of my Contender frames was purchased from a friend who was ranked in the top 10 in IHMSA competition. Needless to say, he was good at tweaking the Contenders. He had the trigger down to 8oz on it. If I could feel the trigger, I'd already fired it. I adjusted some creep back into it and got it up to a measured 18oz. 
    That's about as light a trigger as I want on something not dedicated to bench use.
    Hope it works out well for you, I've heard good things about Shilen triggers, but have never touched one, to the best of my knowledge
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,514 Senior Member
    #6
    I have a 1.5lb Shilen trigger on my heavy .223 Rem. While I typically prefer a wide shoe on a trigger, the thin shoes of a Shilen aren’t a deal breaker. 

    My .260 Rem Benchrest Rifle has a sub 6oz Jewel (my scale doesn’t go low enough to measure 😒). So, I’m used to the lightweight. 

    Think I’ve decided to put the new Shilen Trigger on this .260 Remington. 

    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,152 Senior Member
    #7
    Smoking deal on a proven trigger group.  You should be well pleased.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,514 Senior Member
    #8
    Six-Gun said:
    Smoking deal on a proven trigger group.  You should be well pleased.
    Got it for $145. Couldn’t pass that up. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,330 Senior Member
    #9
    Zee said:
    Six-Gun said:
    Smoking deal on a proven trigger group.  You should be well pleased.
    Got it for $145. Couldn’t pass that up. 
    I wouldn’t have either!  Nice!!!
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,514 Senior Member
    edited October 2020 #10
    Well, this is officially the lightest trigger I own!  Even lighter than my Jewel Benchrest!  Though I have no way of measuring as both are lighter than my scale (6oz) will measure. 
    I still prefer the Jewel as it has less over travel. But, I can touch and rest my finger on the Jewel. Not on this Shilen Benchrest. You touch it........it’s gone. 
    Scary. 

    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,939 Senior Member
    #11
    That would take some getting used to, as a guy with only 1 or 2 drop in AR triggers as upgrades, I am usually settled in with a firm grip on things with my factory triggers. Do you think you will have to modify your patterns when shooting with it if it is that light?
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
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  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,330 Senior Member
    #12
    Well that requires serious trigger control! 😱
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,514 Senior Member
    #13
    CHIRO1989 said:
    That would take some getting used to, as a guy with only 1 or 2 drop in AR triggers as upgrades, I am usually settled in with a firm grip on things with my factory triggers. Do you think you will have to modify your patterns when shooting with it if it is that light?
    Not as long as I have a rest. Offhand would require some timing and concentration. 
    I don’t typically use the bolt guns safety anyway and this one doesn’t even have one. 
    -The bolt is down on an empty chamber w/relaxed firing pin. 
    -Bolt forward and up on a loaded chamber. 
    -Bolt Down on a loaded chamber ready to fire. 
    Those are the three ways I run a bolt gun. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,514 Senior Member
    #14
    Ordered one of these today. 

    A Wheeler Digital Scale that goes from 0-12 lbs. Hopefully able to read ounces better than my spring scale. 
    Will be here Thursday.......supposedly. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,964 Senior Member
    #15
    Wow - the buttons are bigger than the product picture!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,514 Senior Member
    #16
    Holy Crap, Batman!!!

    1.2 OUNCES!!! 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,145 Senior Member
    #17
    Better be careful in a brisk wind
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
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  • 10canyon5310canyon53 Member Posts: 2,122 Senior Member
    #18
    If you even look at it cross-eyed it may go off.
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  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,330 Senior Member
    #19
    Zee said:
    Holy Crap, Batman!!!

    1.2 OUNCES!!! 
    DEAR MOTHER OF GOD!!!  Don’t blink too hard!!! 😱
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,514 Senior Member
    #20
    I’m gonna adjust the over travel. See if I can make it more the feel I like. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,386 Senior Member
    #21
    Spooky!    :p

    I really have to disconnect my brain from all the other things it's hardwired for to really start enjoying triggers like that.  Kinda like the elaborate process I have to go through to fire one of my Dad's Sharps replicas - it requires operating in its own zone.

    My comfort seems to run thusly - if the meat on the pad of my finger is not compressed toward the bone before the gun goes off, level of respect and caution needs to be increased DRAMATICALLY.  I don't think an ounce and a quarter even dents the ridges in your fingerprints. :D
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,514 Senior Member
    #22
    You assuredly have to engage the brain and pay attention. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,514 Senior Member
    edited October 2020 #23
    Ok, I adjusted the weight of pull to 3.0 Oz and lessened the over travel as low as it would go. 

    I can now actually place my finger on the trigger (touch it) and feel like I have a conscious “pull” before it goes off. That makes me feel like it’s an act to fire the gun and not a mistake. I’m happy now. 

    If you guys don’t have a trigger scale......the Wheeler is quite nice for a digital scale. 

    Edit to add: But.......you better be ready to shoot when you TOUCH that trigger. It don’t take much more.........at all. 

    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,330 Senior Member
    #24
    Zee said:
    Ok, I adjusted the weight of pull to 3.0 Oz and lessened the over travel as low as it would go. 

    I can now actually place my finger on the trigger (touch it) and feel like I have a conscious “pull” before it goes off. That makes me feel like it’s an act to fire the gun and not a mistake. I’m happy now. 

    If you guys don’t have a trigger scale......the Wheeler is quite nice for a digital scale. 

    Edit to add: But.......you better be ready to shoot when you TOUCH that trigger. It don’t take much more.........at all. 

    I don’t think I’ve ever shot anything that light in my life!!! 
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

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