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.44 Mag or .444 Marlin?

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 24,932 Senior Member
In a CVA Scout V2 Rifle?

The .444 Marlin sports a 25” barrel w/brake. 

The .44 Mag sports a 22” barrel w/o brake. 


I already own and load for the .44 Mag so it’s a light lift to feed. 
Then again, I’ve never owned, loaded for, or used a .444 Marlin. So, while it would be a new experience (which I like), I’d have to buy dies. 

There is only a $25 price difference between the two. Either will wear a 1x Weaver I have on the shelf. 

Thoughts?
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,299 Senior Member
    I used to own a .444 Lever gun...helluva deer gun.
    .that thing is a thumper...do you need a thumper?
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,312 Senior Member
    edited October 2020 #3
    I agree with Jayhawker. If you need a thumper get the .444. If not, there isn't much that the 44mag out of a rifle barrel won't take down considering the extra fps and energy. 

    Since you already load for the 44mag, that would be my choice. Your mileage may vary. 
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    Winston Churchill
  • MichakavMichakav Senior Member Posts: 2,824 Senior Member
    Definitely the .444. Older school at it finest! A .44 magnum magnum (not a typo).
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,932 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    I used to own a .444 Lever gun...helluva deer gun.
    .that thing is a thumper...do you need a thumper?
    Need?  What’s that mean?  😁
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,932 Senior Member
    I do already have a .45-70 Marlin Guide Gun. So.......
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,299 Senior Member
    edited October 2020 #7
    Zee said:
    Jayhawker said:
    I used to own a .444 Lever gun...helluva deer gun.
    .that thing is a thumper...do you need a thumper?
    Need?  What’s that mean?  😁
    OK...do you WANT another thumper...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,365 Senior Member
    Just googled .444 Marlin, not ever having paid any attention to it. Looks like out to 250-300 yards you can thump anything that walks in North America. Trajectory is sketchy beyond that (i.e. pretty precise range reading is required), but at ~250 it sure looks like a "one shot and done" rig.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,112 Senior Member
    444 marlin hands down. I have it in a Marlin and it's a hoot. A single shot so chambered has been on my "desire" list for a long time. I'd prefer it in something like a Remington rolling block but have been very tempted by the Henry Single shot rifle in .44 mag rechambered.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,932 Senior Member
    edited October 2020 #10
    This might have gotten easy. Can’t find .444 Marlin brass. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,112 Senior Member
    I can probably spare a few, get your head in the game!!
  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,438 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    Jayhawker said:
    I used to own a .444 Lever gun...helluva deer gun.
    .that thing is a thumper...do you need a thumper?
    Need?  What’s that mean?  😁
    Turns out I need a 9mm suppressor.  Hope to get it before the Dems ban them. 
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,299 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    This might have gotten easy. Can’t find .444 Marlin brass. 
    Starline says they have it
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,932 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    Zee said:
    This might have gotten easy. Can’t find .444 Marlin brass. 
    Starline says they have it
    Not at Midway. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,299 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    Jayhawker said:
    Zee said:
    This might have gotten easy. Can’t find .444 Marlin brass. 
    Starline says they have it
    Not at Midway. 
    Order it direct from Starline...that's how I get all my Big Bore stuff...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 3,953 Senior Member
    edited October 2020 #17
    What they said... I’ve been ordering all my brass directly from Starline in bulk. 

    That being said, I’d go 44 mag in a single shot. But only because 444 does nothin for me. Especially outside of a lever action platform. Just “meh...” Personal preference. 450 Bushmaster fills that role nicely. 
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,932 Senior Member
    Well, I just tried to order the .44 Mag carbine. Failed. Seems there is something wrong with my account that can’t be fixed until Monday. 😒
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 3,953 Senior Member
    edited October 2020 #19
    Just order the Lyman Sharps and have a nicer rifle in a chambering that starts with 45... 😉🤣
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,932 Senior Member
    Jay said:
    Just order the Lyman Sharps and have a nicer rifle in a chambering that starts with 45... 😉🤣

    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • MichakavMichakav Senior Member Posts: 2,824 Senior Member
    edited October 2020 #21
    Zee said:
    Well, I just tried to order the .44 Mag carbine. Failed. Seems there is something wrong with my account that can’t be fixed until Monday. 😒
    Boooooo! 444

    https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/product/starline-444-marlin-brass-50/
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,932 Senior Member
    Maybe it was a sign. I couldn’t order. There’s still a chance. 😁
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • MichakavMichakav Senior Member Posts: 2,824 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    Maybe it was a sign. I couldn’t order. There’s still a chance. 😁
    Definitely a sign!  
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,956 Senior Member
    Just a thought but anything the .44 Mag can do the .444 can do farther away without losing anything short range.  BUT, you do already have a 45-70 soooo...
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,365 Senior Member
    OTOH, a .338-06 negates all of these questions. My "thump" gun, if I ever have a dedicated "thump" gun built will be a .338-06.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,499 Senior Member
    My assessment of the .444 is that it fills the same niche as .45-70, but in a much more obscure, harder to find package.  Kinda like a .300 Savage after the .308 Winchester took over.  Has always been one of those "WHY?" cartridges to me.

    .44 would be my call - to be loaded with big bullets and small charges of fast burning stuff for a subsonic low noise, yet high penetration option.  If you need boom, thump, or range, you have plenty of other choices.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,112 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Just a thought but anything the .44 Mag can do the .444 can do farther away without losing anything short range.  BUT, you do already have a 45-70 soooo...
    And I've got 3 45-70's and a 444 marlin and still want a 444 in a single shot. What's your point :#
  • bellcatbellcat Senior Member Posts: 1,934 Senior Member
    444
    "Kindness is the language the deaf can hear and the blind can see." Mark Twain
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 668 Senior Member
    444 for no other reason than pulling a box off the shelf, opening it and removing one to see that they're a huge honking round.
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,956 Senior Member
    sakodude said:
    GunNut said:
    Just a thought but anything the .44 Mag can do the .444 can do farther away without losing anything short range.  BUT, you do already have a 45-70 soooo...
    And I've got 3 45-70's and a 444 marlin and still want a 444 in a single shot. What's your point :#
    I’m trying to be sensible... 😁
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,112 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    sakodude said:
    GunNut said:
    Just a thought but anything the .44 Mag can do the .444 can do farther away without losing anything short range.  BUT, you do already have a 45-70 soooo...
    And I've got 3 45-70's and a 444 marlin and still want a 444 in a single shot. What's your point :#
    I’m trying to be sensible... 😁
    Sensibility doesn't live here :p  
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