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Straight up question. Who's going to win?

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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,156 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Zee said:
    zorba said:
    Its Kamel Toe that scares me - as in scares the crap out of me. 
    In your chosen garb, you sure don’t have to worry about Moose Knuckle. 
    Don’t know what that is and I’m NOT googling it 😱
    A dollar says you already did, just wont admit it
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 607 Senior Member
    As to answer the question of the OP:
    Not the American people...
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,457 Senior Member
    If the polls are correct and Biden is ahead in PA (for ex) by 9%, why is his campaign dumping tons of cash into this state?
    Trump is not universally loved, but the working class in PA can do math.  Thats what stopped Hill, her last 2 weeks of giveaway speeches to the "free shtuff army". People did the math and figured out who the "rich" were.
    Biden is all over, he is for and against fracking, for and against fossil fuels, for and against trade that keeps steel plants open. The ONLY steel plant that makes electrical steel in the US is in WPA, that means if it goes to China, we are dependent on them for transformers, all transformers.... I just dont see it.
    PA has also registered around 247000 R's since the last election, vs 80K D's
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,156 Senior Member
    The Polls lie
    Not sure about elsewhere. But anti Trump commercials outnumber pro 3 to 1 but they are such blatant lies nobody believes them. 
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,457 Senior Member
    edited October 2020 #36
    the commercials are brutally stupid, and the "not a paid spokesperson" 's on the man on the street ones exibit all the facial expressions of a person who is lying.

    But there are people who that when the PA supreme court sided with our dictator Dog, that Trump should be doing something about it... One thing this covid ans election stuff has really brought out is how little people know about how govt works.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,263 Senior Member
    Funny thing about polls and most media.....Hillary was supposed to win in a landslide, and Trump was considered less than even a long-shot in the 2015 Republican Primaries. Surprise....Surprise.

    What concerns me is Trump's bombastic demeanor anytime a camera is pointed at him, (plus his Twitter rants)  that off-puts a voter that agrees with his policies in general, but is used to hearing a politician speak in the manner of....well...Romney.

    And the Senate is polled to turn Dem this cycle. I think this election is going to be much closer than our own admitedly small poll indicates.

    Mike




    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,980 Senior Member
    Funny thing about polls and most media.....Hillary was supposed to win in a landslide, and Trump was considered less than even a long-shot in the 2015 Republican Primaries. Surprise....Surprise.

    What concerns me is Trump's bombastic demeanor anytime a camera is pointed at him, (plus his Twitter rants)  that off-puts a voter that agrees with his policies in general, but is used to hearing a politician speak in the manner of....well...Romney.

    And the Senate is polled to turn Dem this cycle. I think this election is going to be much closer than our own admitedly small poll indicates.

    Mike

    Which is exactly why I love the guy. Don't agree with everything he does, but I agree with 95% of it and I like his take no prisoners, tell it like it really is, no PCBS, this is my position on the matter. Plain language. Its refreshing...

    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • coltdudecoltdude Posts: 18 New Member
    edited October 2020 #39
    orchidman said:
    I dont have a horse in this race...............but my prediction is that no matter who wins, the population of the USA will lose, ie, if Trump wins I dont know how you guys ( n Gals) will survive another 4 years of the same crap that has been going on since he was first elected....( talking about the divisive nature of current politics etc)........and if Biden wins then I think his 4 years will push you much further down the road to socialism...................

    Having said that, the lesser of the 2 evils is Trump winning and I hope it is so........  
    I believe America's guns are safer with Trump over Joe still. I voted for Trump in 2016 and so far he hasn't grabbed my guns or my brother's guns yet. As a Colt gun owner, other American Colt gun owners and I have several HORSES (pun intended) at stake in this race for sure. I believe Biden would try to grab our AR-15's: redo a Clinton-esque "assault weapons" ban. 
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,375 Senior Member
    Funny thing about polls and most media.....Hillary was supposed to win in a landslide, and Trump was considered less than even a long-shot in the 2015 Republican Primaries. Surprise....Surprise.

    What concerns me is Trump's bombastic demeanor anytime a camera is pointed at him, (plus his Twitter rants)  that off-puts a voter that agrees with his policies in general, but is used to hearing a politician speak in the manner of....well...Romney.

    And the Senate is polled to turn Dem this cycle. I think this election is going to be much closer than our own admitedly small poll indicates.

    Mike




    That’s what got him the win last time.  Normal folks like you and I understand theatrics are necessary to energize the base.  As I said in 2016, Mac Donald’s can’t just change their menu to all vegan and salads.  It would collapse their business model and lose them their markets.

    Besides there is an old saying in business.  Sell people what they want and then give them what they need.  It’s a recipe for success.
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,980 Senior Member
    GunNut said: That’s what got him the win last time.
    Yep. We're tired of mealy mouthed politicians - as well as those who cry about decorum.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,395 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    GunNut said: That’s what got him the win last time.
    Yep. We're tired of mealy mouthed politicians - as well as those who cry about decorum.
    The problem with his ranting persona is that you have to convince folks you can be trusted to negotiate for your country on the world stage and be trusted to sit on the trigger of a couple thousand nukes.  There's more to it than calling out the other side's B.S.

    I get that not everyone can be a great orator and statesman, however that first (only?) debate only demonstrated that EVEN KNOWING what's at stake, the guy can't hold his tongue to even give Biden enough rope to hang himself with.

    One of the guys I used to work with retired and went on to run his own polygraph testing business.  His advertising slogan: "You have the right to remain silent.  What you lack is the ability".  Pretty well describes it.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,980 Senior Member
    edited October 2020 #43
    I only partially agree - results count. He gets results. That's the bottom line, and I myself am well known for only caring about the bottom line. I don't give a damn who he "offends" or pisses off in the process. Yea, I wish he'd just stay the hell off of TWITter, but I guess it could be worse - at least he's not on face***k...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,263 Senior Member
    Bigslug said:
    zorba said:
    GunNut said: That’s what got him the win last time.
    Yep. We're tired of mealy mouthed politicians - as well as those who cry about decorum.
    The problem with his ranting persona is that you have to convince folks you can be trusted to negotiate for your country on the world stage and be trusted to sit on the trigger of a couple thousand nukes.  There's more to it than calling out the other side's B.S.

    I get that not everyone can be a great orator and statesman, however that first (only?) debate only demonstrated that EVEN KNOWING what's at stake, the guy can't hold his tongue to even give Biden enough rope to hang himself with.

    One of the guys I used to work with retired and went on to run his own polygraph testing business.  His advertising slogan: "You have the right to remain silent.  What you lack is the ability".  Pretty well describes it.
    Exactly what I was trying to say. 

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
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