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• Justsomedude Posts: 1,489 Senior Member

  November 2020 #2

  119 and 92 with Biden leading. Im actually starting to get nervous and pissed off at the same time.

  We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 

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• Varmintmist Posts: 8,305 Senior Member

  November 2020 #3

  No surprises here and Fox just recalled VA

  118-93 on the Blaze
  

  It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.

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• Lonewolf-Peru Posts: 753 Senior Member

  November 2020 edited November 2020 #4

  Justsomedude said:

  119 and 92 with Biden leading. Im actually starting to get nervous and pissed off at the same time.

  You are not the only one.  As a foreigner, I cannot vote in your election, but, as We say here, when the USA sneezes, South América must take a cold medicine

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• Justsomedude Posts: 1,489 Senior Member

  November 2020 #5

  Don't want to jynx it, but I don't know that I'd feel so bad about the presidency if we get the house and senate. After all the repubs seem to be better at defense than offense from past experiences. 

  We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 

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• DrawbarFlats Posts: 788 Senior Member

  November 2020 #6

  I can't freeking sleep - I'm just staring at the election map. Time for some more tea. 

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• zorba Posts: 25,292 Senior Member

  November 2020 #7

  Trump has basically won it - of course the dems are stalling and holding up the count, etc, etc - but from what I'm seeing, its a done deal except the riots and infighting.
  

  -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"
  
  

  "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

  )O(
  

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• DrawbarFlats Posts: 788 Senior Member

  November 2020 edited November 2020 #8

  zorba said:

  Trump has basically won it - of course the dems are stalling and holding up the count, etc, etc - but from what I'm seeing, its a done deal except the riots and infighting.
  

  It ain't over yet. Remaining states are narrowing as the communist democrat traitors try to steal this election with fraudulent ballots. 

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• Varmintmist Posts: 8,305 Senior Member

  November 2020 #9

  Here, you can suffer with us.. https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/#
  
  

  It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.

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• Bigslug Posts: 9,877 Senior Member

  November 2020 #10

  Pretty much no change from when I went to bed at 10:00 to when I got up at 05:00 (West coast).
  
  Finding I'm feeling a fair amount of disgust brewed over the last couple decades. . .
  
  I think I said elsewhere that the primary process for both parties has NOT given us the cream rising to the top, but rather the turds that won't flush.
  
  For the Republicans, we got a reality TV star whose personality is his own worst enemy versus somebody like Cruz who can actually be articulate about government process and the Constitution.
  
  For the Democrats we got a senile swamp creature of the last failed administration that elevated the reality TV star.
  
  That this election is close is troubling.  That these are the choices we're making is even more so. If this is "getting the government we deserve", maybe it's time to weep and drink heavily.

  WWJMBD?
  
  "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee

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• zorba Posts: 25,292 Senior Member

  November 2020 #11

  I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Trump is the best thing that has happened to the GOP in decades - he just won't play their game. I sure as Hell don't want Cruz (or Pence), a guaranteed GOP loss!
  

  -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"
  
  

  "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

  )O(
  

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• DrawbarFlats Posts: 788 Senior Member

  November 2020 #12

  zorba said:

  I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Trump is the best thing that has happened to the GOP in decades - he just won't play their game. I sure as Hell don't want Cruz (or Pence), a guaranteed GOP loss!
  

  I agree. However, I will say that Cruz shines best as a senator - not as a presidential candidate. As for Trump, he doesn't play the establishment rules. I could give two sheets on his celebrity past or whether or not he says mean things. His record on getting things done and his appointments speaks volumes. 

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• JerryBobCo Posts: 8,227 Senior Member

  November 2020 #13

  You guys need to wake up and smell the coffee.  From where I'm watching, it looks like a Biden presidency.  I think I threw up in my mouth a bit after typing that.
  
  I hope it changes, but it's not looking good.
  
  It is a sad day for this country.

  Jerry
  
  Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.

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• DrawbarFlats Posts: 788 Senior Member

  November 2020 #14

  Bigslug said:

  Pretty much no change from when I went to bed at 10:00 to when I got up at 05:00 (West coast).
  
  Finding I'm feeling a fair amount of disgust brewed over the last couple decades. . .
  
  I think I said elsewhere that the primary process for both parties has NOT given us the cream rising to the top, but rather the turds that won't flush.
  
  For the Republicans, we got a reality TV star whose personality is his own worst enemy versus somebody like Cruz who can actually be articulate about government process and the Constitution.
  
  For the Democrats we got a senile swamp creature of the last failed administration that elevated the reality TV star.
  
  That this election is close is troubling.  That these are the choices we're making is even more so. If this is "getting the government we deserve", maybe it's time to weep and drink heavily.

  I could care less about Trumps personality or his "reality star" status. His record on getting things done spoke volumes. I didn't vote for Trump because I wanted a friend or a meek yes man, I voted for him because of his stellar record and not giving in to the establishment. In closing, it now looks like we'll have Biden as president ... that is until the anti-American left turns on him thus putting anchor baby Harris as president, ...which was the democratic plan all along. 

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• JerryBobCo Posts: 8,227 Senior Member

  November 2020 #15

  Was it the democratic plan, or the Bejing plan?  Any way you look at it, China is the big winner of this year's election.

  Jerry
  
  Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.

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• kansashunter Posts: 1,917 Senior Member

  November 2020 #16

  Cammala (Spelling?) as president and the dems have the house. How strong will
  Mitch be? We will have to wait and see I guess but it won't be good.

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• Bigslug Posts: 9,877 Senior Member

  November 2020 #17

  DrawbarFlats said:

  I could care less about Trumps personality or his "reality star" status. 

  Well, that's great for those of us with enough brain cells to think big picture and long game, but consider the following:
  
   What does it say about the quality of your game when you're managing to lose. . .to. . .JOE BIDEN???  That should be on par with losing a military engagement to the French.

  WWJMBD?
  
  "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee

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• DrawbarFlats Posts: 788 Senior Member

  November 2020 #18

  Bigslug said:

  DrawbarFlats said:

  I could care less about Trumps personality or his "reality star" status. 

  Well, that's great for those of us with enough brain cells to think big picture and long game, but consider the following:
  
   What does it say about the quality of your game when you're managing to lose. . .to. . .JOE BIDEN???  That should be on par with losing a military engagement to the French.
  
  
  LOL!!! 68 million voters turning out to vote for Trump is hardly comparable to your Napoleonic French ancestry. 

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• JerryBobCo Posts: 8,227 Senior Member

  November 2020 #19

  Although it's likely the Rs will hold the senate, it's not a done deal.  There are still races yet to be called, and one (Georgia) will go to a run off.  The second Georgia senate seat may also go to a runoff.  I hope not.
  
  For some reason, NC can't get their act together and count their remaining votes, so they have not called the presidential or senate race there.
  
  Alaska has both Trump and the incumbent republican senator leading by a 2 to 1 margin with nearly 60% of the vote in, but has yet to call it.

  Jerry
  
  Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.

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• Elk creek Posts: 7,936 Senior Member

  November 2020 edited November 2020 #20

  Sorry but the democratic people’s party has no interest in seeing  Joe as president. Harris will be crowned within a year. Joe will be senile, stroked out or gone. This is a straight up coup, a “legitimized” coup to take over the country not from Trump but US! 

  Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.

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• Elk creek Posts: 7,936 Senior Member

  November 2020 #21

  As I see it. Either way the dems are going to get what they want. If Harris win, yes Harris, they get 4 years to break this country from the top down. If our President wins they mobilize the “useful idiots” to attempt to destroy the country from the bottom up... parasites, scum, faithless, Godless destroyers of all that’s good.....
  

  Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.

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• pjames777 Posts: 1,421 Senior Member

  November 2020 #22

  This was Trump's election to lose and he's done a fine job.  His mouth is his downfall.  Sadly, we will pay for his egomania.  At least we got three "conservative" justices.

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• bisley Posts: 10,815 Senior Member

  November 2020 #23

  Trump is a flawed man, but he was the right man for the job, at this late date in our downward spiral into the 1984 scenario. That is evidenced by leftists coming out of the shadows with their end game final assault. If the supreme court won't disqualify the mail-in scams, our children and grandchildren will never know the freedom and prosperity that we were able to enjoy.

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• DrawbarFlats Posts: 788 Senior Member

  November 2020 edited November 2020 #24

  bisley said:

  Trump is a flawed man, but he was the right man for the job, at this late date in our downward spiral into the 1984 scenario. That is evidenced by leftists coming out of the shadows with their end game final assault. If the supreme court won't disqualify the mail-in scams, our children and grandchildren will never know the freedom and prosperity that we were able to enjoy.

  The only way our children and grandchildren will never know freedom is if we sit back and do nothing. Sadly, most conservative-minded people have lost the will to do what our Founders did. God forbid we lose our TV shows and sports, our BBQ Sundays, our smartphones, and our modern conveniences. Those things are far more important than our Constitution. Our Founders are looking down and at us and saying: "What a bunch of ****ing pus....sies. 
  
  ETA: You're spot on with the Orwell reference. I also wonder just how long it will take to see the "Firemen" from 451 burn down our libraries in their quest to erase this Nation's history. Heck, we're already seeing it being played out in cyber version with Marxist social media sites such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. It is beyond me how anyone in their right mind can continue to subscribe membership to those Marxist controlled platforms.  

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• bisley Posts: 10,815 Senior Member

  November 2020 #25

  Our founders put up with worse, before choosing to be branded as traitors by going to guns. The legal system is definitely a less painful option, if there is still a chance of winning.
  
  Time will tell, if our historical enemies don't decide to take a more direct approach while we are in a constitutional crisis.

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• zorba Posts: 25,292 Senior Member

  November 2020 #26

  THANK YOU DRAWBAR!
  

  -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"
  
  

  "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

  )O(
  

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• DrawbarFlats Posts: 788 Senior Member

  November 2020 #27

  zorba said:

  THANK YOU DRAWBAR!
  

  You're welcome, Zorba!

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• Diver43 Posts: 12,778 Senior Member

  November 2020 #28

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  Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5

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• zorba Posts: 25,292 Senior Member

  November 2020 #29

  knitepoet said:

  bisley said:

  Our founders put up with worse, before choosing to be branded as traitors by going to guns. The legal system is definitely a less painful option, if there is still a chance of winning.
  
  Time will tell, if our historical enemies don't decide to take a more direct approach while we are in a constitutional crisis.

  Agreed.
  "Going to guns" should be the ABSOLUTE last option

  Agreed also - but its "getting closer". We'll see what happens when Nancy and Kamala try a Hitler-esque gun ban - we know what happened in 1934. Never mind the "Mask Religion" the Left promulgates. "Going to guns" could wind up with something just as bad or worse than the Leftists!
  

  Here's my nightmare scenario of the day: It may not matter that much either way with the 2020 election. If Trump pulls it out of his hat, that's great. But then there's 2024, and Pence is un electable. I don't like him, although I'd hold my nose and vote for him; but there are a metric butt-ton of people who won't - its a guaranteed GOP loss for the same tired old reasons. So barring somebody else the GOP won't hamstring that's more appealing (and that sure as Hell isn't Cruz or Santorum), its a guaranteed democratic win in 2024. So if Trump doesn't pull it off now, its just the inevitable 4 years earlier...
  

  -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"
  
  

  "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

  )O(
  

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• JerryBobCo Posts: 8,227 Senior Member

  November 2020 #30

  Zorba, I agree totally with your 2020/2024 position.  With the way things stand now, I hope that Trump can expose the degree of corruption that the dems, big tech, the media and the big banks are bringing to bear on changing the nature of this country.  I'll throw in foreign adversaries, too, such as China.
  
  Hopefully, enough people will realize what is really happening and we can all take a stand against this problem.
  
  69 million people haven't voted for Trump for no reason.
  

  Jerry
  
  Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.

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• zorba Posts: 25,292 Senior Member

  November 2020 edited November 2020 #31

  Jerry, I sure hope so - I really do. But I'm not holding my breathe. Although I've always thought CableCos and TelCos were snakes in the grass, its only been quite recently that I've figured out that A) they're far worse than I thought, and B ) Virtually all of the rest of the tech industry is just as bad. And I've *always* detested BANKS.
  

  -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"
  
  

  "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

  )O(
  

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