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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,850 Senior Member
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    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,750 Senior Member
    knitepoet said:
    bisley said:
    Our founders put up with worse, before choosing to be branded as traitors by going to guns. The legal system is definitely a less painful option, if there is still a chance of winning.

    Time will tell, if our historical enemies don't decide to take a more direct approach while we are in a constitutional crisis.
    Agreed.
    "Going to guns" should be the ABSOLUTE last option
    Agreed also - but its "getting closer". We'll see what happens when Nancy and Kamala try a Hitler-esque gun ban - we know what happened in 1934. Never mind the "Mask Religion" the Left promulgates. "Going to guns" could wind up with something just as bad or worse than the Leftists!
    Here's my nightmare scenario of the day: It may not matter that much either way with the 2020 election. If Trump pulls it out of his hat, that's great. But then there's 2024, and Pence is un electable. I don't like him, although I'd hold my nose and vote for him; but there are a metric butt-ton of people who won't - its a guaranteed GOP loss for the same tired old reasons. So barring somebody else the GOP won't hamstring that's more appealing (and that sure as Hell isn't Cruz or Santorum), its a guaranteed democratic win in 2024. So if Trump doesn't pull it off now, its just the inevitable 4 years earlier...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    Zorba, I agree totally with your 2020/2024 position.  With the way things stand now, I hope that Trump can expose the degree of corruption that the dems, big tech, the media and the big banks are bringing to bear on changing the nature of this country.  I'll throw in foreign adversaries, too, such as China.

    Hopefully, enough people will realize what is really happening and we can all take a stand against this problem.

    69 million people haven't voted for Trump for no reason.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,750 Senior Member
    edited November 2020 #35
    Jerry, I sure hope so - I really do. But I'm not holding my breathe. Although I've always thought CableCos and TelCos were snakes in the grass, its only been quite recently that I've figured out that A) they're far worse than I thought, and B ) Virtually all of the rest of the tech industry is just as bad. And I've *always* detested BANKS.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,850 Senior Member
    edited November 2020 #36
    Let's face it.  The election from the beginning was Trumps to lose. I am afraid his mouth just may have done that for him and will overshadow the good things he has done and leave us fighting this next four years
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,750 Senior Member
    Depends on one's temperament. Myself, one of the best things about Trump is his mouth - he says what he thinks and doesn't give a **** what anybody thinks. Kinda like me.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 2,562 Senior Member
    The Left/Dems did exactly what I was afraid they would do.  They mobilized/energized the hell out of their people. After seeing how close they came in ‘16, they weren’t gonna take a chance this time. 
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,750 Senior Member
    RugerFan said:
    The Left/Dems did exactly what I was afraid they would do.  They mobilized/energized the hell out of their people. After seeing how close they came in ‘16, they weren’t gonna take a chance this time. 
    Yep, they 'energized' a LOT of people alright. Many of them never voted Democrat while they were alive.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • DrawbarFlatsDrawbarFlats Posts: 788 Senior Member
    edited November 2020 #40
    Diver43 said:
    Let's face it.  The election from the beginning was Trumps to lose. I am afraid his mouth just may have done that for him and will overshadow the good things he has done and leave us fighting this next four years
    Disagree. I don't give a squat who Trump offended or who got their whittle fweeings huwrt over his crassness. 70 million voters came out for Trump. That in it self clearly states it wasn't Trump's election to lose. It is the anti-American democrats who are now outnumbering us through attrition, ESPECIALLY the idiot kids who are buying into the Marxist agenda .... and that isn't even counting the mass voter fraud. 
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,300 Senior Member
    Saw this posted up on another forum. Not sure of its veracity...........


    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,850 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    Let's face it.  The election from the beginning was Trumps to lose. I am afraid his mouth just may have done that for him and will overshadow the good things he has done and leave us fighting this next four years
    Disagree. I don't give a squat who Trump offended or who got their whittle fweeings huwrt over his crassness. 70 million voters came out for Trump. That in it self clearly states it wasn't Trump's election to lose. It is the anti-American democrats who are now outnumbering us through attrition, ESPECIALLY the idiot kids who are buying into the Marxist agenda .... and that isn't even counting the mass voter fraud. 
    Not giving a squat what others think is why he didnt win by landslide 
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,750 Senior Member
    Trump doesn't pussyfoot around, use PC language, speak BS-eze, or act like a politician. THAT is why 70 million voted for him. I'm with Drawbar on this one, I've HAD IT up to "here" with people being oh-so-concerned about who they'll "offend". Tell me what you are, and what  you're going to do about the situation in PLAIN LANGUAGE. If you want a silver tongued politician, see Obama. Myself, I'm *DONE* with such.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • DrawbarFlatsDrawbarFlats Posts: 788 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    Diver43 said:
    Let's face it.  The election from the beginning was Trumps to lose. I am afraid his mouth just may have done that for him and will overshadow the good things he has done and leave us fighting this next four years
    Disagree. I don't give a squat who Trump offended or who got their whittle fweeings huwrt over his crassness. 70 million voters came out for Trump. That in it self clearly states it wasn't Trump's election to lose. It is the anti-American democrats who are now outnumbering us through attrition, ESPECIALLY the idiot kids who are buying into the Marxist agenda .... and that isn't even counting the mass voter fraud. 
    Not giving a squat what others think is why he didnt win by landslide 
    Nonsense. 
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,850 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Trump doesn't pussyfoot around, use PC language, speak BS-eze, or act like a politician. THAT is why 70 million voted for him. I'm with Drawbar on this one, I've HAD IT up to "here" with people being oh-so-concerned about who they'll "offend". Tell me what you are, and what  you're going to do about the situation in PLAIN LANGUAGE. If you want a silver tongued politician, see Obama. Myself, I'm *DONE* with such.
    Diver43 said:
    Diver43 said:
    Let's face it.  The election from the beginning was Trumps to lose. I am afraid his mouth just may have done that for him and will overshadow the good things he has done and leave us fighting this next four years
    Disagree. I don't give a squat who Trump offended or who got their whittle fweeings huwrt over his crassness. 70 million voters came out for Trump. That in it self clearly states it wasn't Trump's election to lose. It is the anti-American democrats who are now outnumbering us through attrition, ESPECIALLY the idiot kids who are buying into the Marxist agenda .... and that isn't even counting the mass voter fraud. 
    Not giving a squat what others think is why he didnt win by landslide 
    Nonsense. 
    Diver43 said:
    Diver43 said:
    Let's face it.  The election from the beginning was Trumps to lose. I am afraid his mouth just may have done that for him and will overshadow the good things he has done and leave us fighting this next four years
    Disagree. I don't give a squat who Trump offended or who got their whittle fweeings huwrt over his crassness. 70 million voters came out for Trump. That in it self clearly states it wasn't Trump's election to lose. It is the anti-American democrats who are now outnumbering us through attrition, ESPECIALLY the idiot kids who are buying into the Marxist agenda .... and that isn't even counting the mass voter fraud. 
    Not giving a squat what others think is why he didnt win by landslide 
    Nonsense. 
    Nonsense? Then why is nobody saying Trump won?
    I like the guy, I really like what he did for our economy, but he refused to shut up and not talk trash.  He said things that many people thought were out of line.  But hey, this is America, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Maybe he will pull it off, if not We try again in four years.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,750 Senior Member
    Nobody's arguing the pickle Trump is in, just the how/why he got there. You don't like his mouth, and I do. You know what they say about opinions! :D
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    I guess we could do the 1861 thing all over again...................it's creeping in that direction.
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • DrawbarFlatsDrawbarFlats Posts: 788 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    I guess we could do the 1861 thing all over again...................it's creeping in that direction.
    Indeed it is. 
  • DrawbarFlatsDrawbarFlats Posts: 788 Senior Member
    This entire situation makes me want to dust off my hardcover edition of "Unintended Consequences" and read it again. Hell, might just do that. 
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    Covid-19.  Repeat after me.  Covid-19.

    Without the dems having that as a rallying cry it would have been a landslide for Trump.  And, I really don't know how he, or anyone else, could have handled it any better.  A nation wide lockdown or national mask mandate, in my humble opinion, would be a disaster.

    This was a victory for communist China, the left wing media, big tech, the big techs and a corrupt democratic party.   I'm not ruling out voter fraud, either, as there's a lot of litigation left to do.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,576 Senior Member
    IMO, it was Trump's election to lose and he did so in fine style. If Twitter hadn't been invented, he'd have won by a 25% margin.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 1,164 Senior Member
    I bet all of this makes Jerm happy.
    We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 1,164 Senior Member
    I should also add that I've dropped smokeless tobacco cold turkey so im being an unintentional dick at the moment.
    We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    knitepoet said:
    bisley said:
    Our founders put up with worse, before choosing to be branded as traitors by going to guns. The legal system is definitely a less painful option, if there is still a chance of winning.

    Time will tell, if our historical enemies don't decide to take a more direct approach while we are in a constitutional crisis.
    Agreed.
    "Going to guns" should be the ABSOLUTE last option
    Let's keep in mind that only the media has anointed Uncle Joe the new leader of the free world.

    The election is still an ongoing process that won't be over until all of the irregularities have been resolved, by the state legislators or in court.

    There is overwhelming circumstantial evidence of tampering, and hard facts are surfacing by the hour. There is a reason why election law does not provide for declaring a winner until December 12, and not even then, if court challenges have not been ruled on.
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 879 Senior Member
    Bisley......your alive.   :)
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