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First blood with the Center-Grip 308 Winchester XP-100

Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior MemberPosts: 7,581 Senior Member
edited December 2020 in Hunting #1
The center-grip 308 Winchester XP-100 drew first blood Friday afternoon. It was a hurried double kneeling short shot at around 50-60 yards, Using BogGear’s tripod and PSR top/Holland’s small field bag.  I was doing the sneaky sneak on my way to place where I was going to sit for the rest of the day (no artificial blind of any kind, just nature).  
The doe was either just coming out of cover or was just inside cover (trees and shrubs). We seemed to discover each other at about the same time.  I was in the open though.  
Even though I had the XP-100 in my hand and my Bog-Gear (legs extended) in the other, I could not get set up quickly enough to make a shot. She turned around and walked back into cover, and then threw up her flag and waved it a few times going away for me and to the left. Now, I need to get about another hundred yards so I can try to get set up on a two-track that’s going to be going to my right and wait there, hoping that she will cross and give me a shot opportunity. As I was walking faster to get to that spot to set up, I look to my right and there she was or a different one, I’m not quite sure, just inside cover - basically broadside. 
Given the spookiness of these deer here this year, I didn’t think I was going to get a shot opportunity, but you don’t know unless you try, so I kneeled, spread the legs on the tripod and centered up as quick as I could and took the shot.  
I didn't range distance before or check afterwards.  
Dropped on the spot...The 168 grain Hornady A-Max (Hornady TAP) performed admirably.  

We (Dan’s family) plan on having smoked backstrap this evening.  
We were in the foothills of the Big Horn mountains, outside of Story, Wyoming. Yes, we have whitetail here.  
The two different ways that I hunt this place, is doing the slow sneaky sneak, which has given some good results, but it also ends up with the just wasn’t able get it done before they move into cover (which happened more than one time on Thursday and Friday morning).  The other way, is to put yourself in a place to where you have a reasonable view, of where you can tell they have crossed, in semi-open areas. I usually am sitting with my back against a tree.  
You cannot bait with a corn feeder either. It snowed lightly about half of the time of the two days, and you can tell by the terrain, that it is not flat. Where I was doing my stand hunting, it was more flat there than a lot of the other different places. Temperatures ranged from teens to low 30’s. Dan tagged out to using his S&W 357 Magnum R.A.A.P.
Good times with a good friend.
 I shot her just behind the shoulder, and because of the way she was positioned it exited on the offside shoulder  

The last two pictures are the exit.  

Ernie

"The Un-Tactical"

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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,772 Senior Member
    Well done!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 13,030 Senior Member
    That worked out well! What knife are you using, I could not read what it said on the blade other than USA?
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,201 Senior Member
    Nicely done...thanks for the tale
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,308 Senior Member
    Nice one
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,581 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 said:
    That worked out well! What knife are you using, I could not read what it said on the blade other than USA?
    A 4 ounce Gerber 600 that I have had for some time. 
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 13,030 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 said:
    That worked out well! What knife are you using, I could not read what it said on the blade other than USA?
    A 4 ounce Gerber 600 that I have had for some time. 
    Thanks, although I don't know why they make hunting knives in camo, they should all have some orange or red on them so they don't disappear in the grass, obviously it is a keeper.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,581 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 said:
    CHIRO1989 said:
    That worked out well! What knife are you using, I could not read what it said on the blade other than USA?
    A 4 ounce Gerber 600 that I have had for some time. 
    Thanks, although I don't know why they make hunting knives in camo, they should all have some orange or red on them so they don't disappear in the grass, obviously it is a keeper.
    There has been a few times, where I’ve had to look a little hard to find it. One of those times was yesterday 🤣
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,355 Senior Member
    Well done!  Congrats on the deer and a successful stalk!
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • bellcatbellcat Senior Member Posts: 1,929 Senior Member
    What a great hunt with a cool firearm! Congratulations!
    "Kindness is the language the deaf can hear and the blind can see." Mark Twain
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,581 Senior Member
    Well done!  Congrats on the deer and a successful stalk!
    Thank you.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,581 Senior Member
    bellcat said:
    What a great hunt with a cool firearm! Congratulations!

    I think it is pretty cool too-Thanks!
    I am enjoying this one.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,162 Senior Member
    Very cool! Great looking rig and beautiful country Ernie. I would love to be able to hunt in terrain like that.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,703 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 said:
    That worked out well! What knife are you using, I could not read what it said on the blade other than USA?
    A 4 ounce Gerber 600 that I have had for some time. 
    Those old “Portland” Gerber are becoming scarce and desirable with prices rising on eBay.  They are excellent blades.

    Well done with the XP!  Every time you post a picture of one I want one and the Zee talks me out of it... 🤣
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,581 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    CHIRO1989 said:
    That worked out well! What knife are you using, I could not read what it said on the blade other than USA?
    A 4 ounce Gerber 600 that I have had for some time. 
    Those old “Portland” Gerber are becoming scarce and desirable with prices rising on eBay.  They are excellent blades.

    Well done with the XP!  Every time you post a picture of one I want one and the Zee talks me out of it... 🤣

    Ask Zee again...He may not talk you out of it this time B)
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,581 Senior Member
    orchidman said:
    Very cool! Great looking rig and beautiful country Ernie. I would love to be able to hunt in terrain like that.

    This place is under 2 hours from Gillette.  Maybe you can come to the states in the future and hunt here.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,772 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    CHIRO1989 said:
    That worked out well! What knife are you using, I could not read what it said on the blade other than USA?
    A 4 ounce Gerber 600 that I have had for some time. 
    Those old “Portland” Gerber are becoming scarce and desirable with prices rising on eBay.  They are excellent blades.

    Well done with the XP!  Every time you post a picture of one I want one and the Zee talks me out of it... 🤣

    Ask Zee again...He may not talk you out of it this time B)
    Specialty Pistols don’t match his particular style and application. 

    I’m willing to bet you lunch it would be another “here today, gone tomorrow” for him. 
    Not that that is a bad thing......but, unless he wants to check a box, he’s likely better off looking for a classic or collectible or something else on his list. 

    But, I’m willing to be wrong. Don’t think I am. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,703 Senior Member
    edited December 2020 #18
    Zee said:
    GunNut said:
    CHIRO1989 said:
    That worked out well! What knife are you using, I could not read what it said on the blade other than USA?
    A 4 ounce Gerber 600 that I have had for some time. 
    Those old “Portland” Gerber are becoming scarce and desirable with prices rising on eBay.  They are excellent blades.

    Well done with the XP!  Every time you post a picture of one I want one and the Zee talks me out of it... 🤣

    Ask Zee again...He may not talk you out of it this time B)
    Specialty Pistols don’t match his particular style and application. 

    I’m willing to bet you lunch it would be another “here today, gone tomorrow” for him. 
    Not that that is a bad thing......but, unless he wants to check a box, he’s likely better off looking for a classic or collectible or something else on his list. 

    But, I’m willing to be wrong. Don’t think I am. 
    Not trying to stroke your ego, you know me better than that, but you’ve never steered me wrong that I can recall.  I don’t listen much to a lot of folks but you usually make me think past my sheer gun lust.  And when I don’t listening listen I seem to end up with your voice in my head later on going “Told’ya” 🤣
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,581 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Zee said:
    GunNut said:
    CHIRO1989 said:
    That worked out well! What knife are you using, I could not read what it said on the blade other than USA?
    A 4 ounce Gerber 600 that I have had for some time. 
    Those old “Portland” Gerber are becoming scarce and desirable with prices rising on eBay.  They are excellent blades.

    Well done with the XP!  Every time you post a picture of one I want one and the Zee talks me out of it... 🤣

    Ask Zee again...He may not talk you out of it this time B)
    Specialty Pistols don’t match his particular style and application. 

    I’m willing to bet you lunch it would be another “here today, gone tomorrow” for him. 
    Not that that is a bad thing......but, unless he wants to check a box, he’s likely better off looking for a classic or collectible or something else on his list. 

    But, I’m willing to be wrong. Don’t think I am. 
    Not trying to stroke your ego, you know me better than that, but you’ve never steered me wrong that I can recall.  I don’t listen much to a lot of folks but you usually make me think past my sheer gun lust.  And when I don’t listening listen I seem to end up with your voice in my head later on going “Told’ya” 🤣

    Lunch it is...What is the time frame for him to have it, before you buy me lunch?!? :p
    First, he has to actually get one, before the time begins...
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,703 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Zee said:
    GunNut said:
    CHIRO1989 said:
    That worked out well! What knife are you using, I could not read what it said on the blade other than USA?
    A 4 ounce Gerber 600 that I have had for some time. 
    Those old “Portland” Gerber are becoming scarce and desirable with prices rising on eBay.  They are excellent blades.

    Well done with the XP!  Every time you post a picture of one I want one and the Zee talks me out of it... 🤣

    Ask Zee again...He may not talk you out of it this time B)
    Specialty Pistols don’t match his particular style and application. 

    I’m willing to bet you lunch it would be another “here today, gone tomorrow” for him. 
    Not that that is a bad thing......but, unless he wants to check a box, he’s likely better off looking for a classic or collectible or something else on his list. 

    But, I’m willing to be wrong. Don’t think I am. 
    Not trying to stroke your ego, you know me better than that, but you’ve never steered me wrong that I can recall.  I don’t listen much to a lot of folks but you usually make me think past my sheer gun lust.  And when I don’t listening listen I seem to end up with your voice in my head later on going “Told’ya” 🤣

    Lunch it is...What is the time frame for him to have it, before you buy me lunch?!? :p
    First, he has to actually get one, before the time begins...
    Now your both just messing with me... 🤬
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,581 Senior Member
    Come shoot with me at WYSHOT this summer, and you can use one of loaner XP's.  You will probably shoot further on steel than you ever have before, and with a specialty pistol to boot. The other part of WYSHOT is prairie dog shooting.  By the time you are done, you will have a much better idea of what you like. Summary of the shoot. https://sebrests-usa.com/wy-shot/


    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,703 Senior Member
    Come shoot with me at WYSHOT this summer, and you can use one of loaner XP's.  You will probably shoot further on steel than you ever have before, and with a specialty pistol to boot. The other part of WYSHOT is prairie dog shooting.  By the time you are done, you will have a much better idea of what you like. Summary of the shoot. https://sebrests-usa.com/wy-shot/


    If there is ANY way I can accomplish this I will.  Thanks for the invite!
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,581 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Come shoot with me at WYSHOT this summer, and you can use one of loaner XP's.  You will probably shoot further on steel than you ever have before, and with a specialty pistol to boot. The other part of WYSHOT is prairie dog shooting.  By the time you are done, you will have a much better idea of what you like. Summary of the shoot. https://sebrests-usa.com/wy-shot/


    If there is ANY way I can accomplish this I will.  Thanks for the invite!

    Great!  This is a serious invite.  The specialty pistol I have in mind for you to use, took third in the overall and first in the junior division. A father and son used the same SP.  6 Creed HSP

    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,703 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Come shoot with me at WYSHOT this summer, and you can use one of loaner XP's.  You will probably shoot further on steel than you ever have before, and with a specialty pistol to boot. The other part of WYSHOT is prairie dog shooting.  By the time you are done, you will have a much better idea of what you like. Summary of the shoot. https://sebrests-usa.com/wy-shot/


    If there is ANY way I can accomplish this I will.  Thanks for the invite!

    Great!  This is a serious invite.  The specialty pistol I have in mind for you to use, took third in the overall and first in the junior division. A father and son used the same SP.  6 Creed HSP

    That is a great offer and I will give it serious consideration for sure.  I have never been to WY and I can't think of a better reason to make this happen than to meet you and get to shoot with you!!!  Thanks!
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,581 Senior Member

    It shoots both of the Hornady factory ammo great. With a 103 grain ELDX the muzzle velocity is 2791 fps.  
    With the factory match in the 108 grain ELDM the muzzle velocity is 2704 fps. 
    The father-son team use the 103 grain  on day one, and switched to the 108 grain on day two, and the drops were  almost the same ironically.  
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,703 Senior Member
    That is a gorgeous gun!  What distances do you normally shoot at this event?  I can guarantee you whatever it is it’ll be my first time attempting it.  Not a lot of open land in my haunts for me to really stretch my legs.  I remember asking Zee a few years ago about buying something for LR like a Lapua or such and I had to wait for him to get back off the floor after he finished laughing at me... I think he mentioned something about me running a Formula 1 race car on my driveway...  he’s kind’a mean that way  🤣🤣🤣
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,772 Senior Member

    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,581 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    That is a gorgeous gun!  What distances do you normally shoot at this event?  I can guarantee you whatever it is it’ll be my first time attempting it.  Not a lot of open land in my haunts for me to really stretch my legs.  I remember asking Zee a few years ago about buying something for LR like a Lapua or such and I had to wait for him to get back off the floor after he finished laughing at me... I think he mentioned something about me running a Formula 1 race car on my driveway...  he’s kind’a mean that way  🤣🤣🤣
    You never have to guess what our friend is thinking...The gift of the knuckle-dragger <3
    We have 5" and 10" steel primarily, with some 12' and little bigger when the distance gets further out there.  Bonus targets are over 1000 yards.
    We have had many a first time shooter to both specialty pistols and distance, do things they couldn't imagine. 
    Come to learn, meet people, shoot cool rigs, have fun, and try to remember your fundamentals at the same time B)
    Most shooting will be from the prone position. 
    Most of the time off of a bi-pod, but maybe off of a backpack, or off of a log...
    You will have people spotting for you and giving you correction. 
    Most of my scopes are MOA, but if you are hard wired for MIL's, I can put that scope on there as well. 
    Regardless, you will have a good FFP reticle and a zero stop, and physical drop chart. 
    The Sightron S-III will not be on there, unless you want to use that scope. 
    The distances and target sizes are on everyone's score sheet, so you do not have to worry about ranging targets.
    If you are serious, you will need to let me know so I can reserve that HSP for your use.
    With the factory 108 ELD-M Match with a 100 yards zero is it 30 MOA to a grand with a 6.5 MOA for a 10mph Full Value Wind.
    500 yards is 9.75 MOA and 2.75 for wind

    The 103 ELD-X takes 28.5 for drop and 6.5 for wind at a grand, and at 500 9.25 drop and 2.75 for wind.

    If you want a little advantage in drop go with the 103 ELD-X

    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,703 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    That is a gorgeous gun!  What distances do you normally shoot at this event?  I can guarantee you whatever it is it’ll be my first time attempting it.  Not a lot of open land in my haunts for me to really stretch my legs.  I remember asking Zee a few years ago about buying something for LR like a Lapua or such and I had to wait for him to get back off the floor after he finished laughing at me... I think he mentioned something about me running a Formula 1 race car on my driveway...  he’s kind’a mean that way  🤣🤣🤣
    You never have to guess what our friend is thinking...The gift of the knuckle-dragger <3

    Yeah, let's go with gift...  :D
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

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