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Thoughts on Ruger LCP 2

kansashunterkansashunter Posts: 1,917 Senior Member
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I have looked for something small to slip in a pocket for a while, not something I would carry much but on occasion. I thought a bond arms would be the thing but after looking at one it is not really what I am looking for. My lgs suggested a Ruger, he didn't have one, I looked at one online and the weight and size is right. Just looking for thoughts on this or if there is something else.
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  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 12,746 Senior Member
    #2
    The Ruger or Kel Tec both work well for a pocket gun
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Posts: 18,355 Senior Member
    #3
    We have an LC9 that works well for something to stick in the back pocket of your jeans...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
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  • Some_MookSome_Mook Posts: 624 Senior Member
    #4
    I have the first version LCP.  Put a trigger kit in it and it is a nice little pocket gun to have handy if I ever get into a knife fight.

    I actually like the Bond Arms guns, but I load mine with shot shells and carry it in a shoulder rig while I am cutting the pasture.  Not a fan of field mice.  
    "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine
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  • AntonioAntonio Posts: 2,986 Senior Member
    #5
    Friends of mine carry LCPs as pocket guns whenever a conventional CCW won´t work (Biking, jogging social events where suits are wore, etc.) and all are quite happy with their sizes & performance. 

    Have shot them a few times; trigger is hard, grip not the best for big hands, kick a bit snappy and sights pretty much useless for anything more than point-shooting @ 7-10 yards but with some practice you can print pretty decent groups at that distance. I'd say get it.
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  • JKPJKP Posts: 2,767 Senior Member
    #6
    Better than some sharp sticks.
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  • Some_MookSome_Mook Posts: 624 Senior Member
    #7
    The S&W body guard is supposed to have better sights than the Ruger (which are basically non-existent), but I have no experience with that model.  I bang on 4" steel plates at 10 yards with the LCP, even with the minimal sights - I did paint the front sight white with some modelling paint.
    "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine
    "I know my place in the world and it ain’t standing next to Jerry Miculek" - Zee
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  • Gene LGene L Posts: 12,815 Senior Member
    edited February 2021 #8
    I had a S&W bodyguard.  I liked everything about it but the trigger.  Heavy trigger and Recoil shifted my grip/trigger finger grasp and it was VERY difficult to get followup shots.  I could hardly pull the trigger because my index finger wedged up against my hand.  Disappointing.




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  • TugarTugar Posts: 2,477 Senior Member
    edited February 2021 #9
    My hands are too large. Picked up it and the regular LCP at the gun shop. Big nope. My now gone Pt 709 was slightly larger and that was borderline. I had to add the pinkie extension for it to be manageable. Hard to go smaller. I personally would rather have something a bit larger that I can actually shoot decently. But that's me. 

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  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,856 Senior Member
    #10
    Make sure you go stainless if you do go LCP - seen a couple of blued ones that were really rust-prone.

    They are definitely on the small side of the small / shootable equation.  Because they are of the new recoil-operated (vs. blowback) crop, they are far more manageable than PPK's or Sig 232's.  Big fan of the Glock 42's personally - a little bit bigger, but bordering on serious shooter.
    WWJMBD?

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  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,368 Senior Member
    #11
    https://forums.gunsandammo.com/discussion/39957/shot-a-ruger-lcp-380#latest
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    #12
    As I mentioned in the thread Zee brought up, I still think in the tiny gun size the Kahr PM9 is a much better gun overall.
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,419 Senior Member
    #13
    Or the little Walther. My brother has 2 of those and they are NICE with great triggers
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
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  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Posts: 1,644 Senior Member
    edited February 2021 #14
    Some_Mook said:
    The S&W body guard is supposed to have better sights than the Ruger (which are basically non-existent), but I have no experience with that model.  I bang on 4" steel plates at 10 yards with the LCP, even with the minimal sights - I did paint the front sight white with some modelling paint.
    I did the same thing with my LCP.

    I can hit a torso sized target at likely mugger distances without a problem. Perfect pocket gun for dropping in my shorts as I go about my business on a hot Texas day. 

    The LCP II model supposedly has a better trigger.


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  • Some_MookSome_Mook Posts: 624 Senior Member
    #15
    Uncle Fester said:
    Some_Mook said:
    The S&W body guard is supposed to have better sights than the Ruger (which are basically non-existent), but I have no experience with that model.  I bang on 4" steel plates at 10 yards with the LCP, even with the minimal sights - I did paint the front sight white with some modelling paint.
    I did the same thing with my LCP.

    I can hit a torso sized target at likely mugger distances without a problem. Perfect pocket gun for dropping in my shorts as I go about my business on a hot Texas day. 

    The LCP II model supposedly has a better trigger.


    I put a Sweet Pea Trigger and an M*Carbo spring kit in my first gen LCP.  Happy with the results.  The install process had me thinking some unkind thoughts (again) regarding Ruger over-engineering.  Probably easier with three hands and dual opposable thumbs on each hand.
    "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine
    "I know my place in the world and it ain’t standing next to Jerry Miculek" - Zee
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  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Posts: 10,928 Senior Member
    #16
    I've always kept an eye out for a Hi-Standard .22mag derringer to use a pocket gun. I think .380 size is a bit big for pocket carry. Actually better penetration with a .22 than a .32acp or .25acp.


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  • FreezerFreezer Posts: 2,751 Senior Member
    #17
    I handled the LCP 2 at the LGS and the trigger was much better, still a Ruger trigger but much better.
    I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter :wink:
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  • kansashunterkansashunter Posts: 1,917 Senior Member
    edited March 2021 #18
    I was looking for a pocket pistol and I thought I wanted a auto but my lgs traded for this and I liked it and 38 special is a little better than 380. My new pocket pistol.
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  • rberglofrberglof Posts: 2,998 Senior Member
    #19
    Now that looks very nice. 
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Posts: 18,355 Senior Member
    #20
    That will certainly work...
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  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 12,746 Senior Member
    #21
    Very Nice
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  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    #22
    kansashunter said:
    I was looking for a pocket pistol and I thought I wanted a auto but my lgs traded for this and I liked it and 38 special is a little better than 380. My new pocket pistol.
    Yep, that’ll do.
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,419 Senior Member
    #23
    kansashunter said:
    I was looking for a pocket pistol and I thought I wanted a auto but my lgs traded for this and I liked it and 38 special is a little better than 380. My new pocket pistol.
    Nice score!
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
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  • kansashunterkansashunter Posts: 1,917 Senior Member
    #24
    When I saw it hanging on the wall I had to look at it and when I saw the price I was really interested. He let me dry fire it and it is a long pull but right before it breaks it gets light and smooth or if you pull it fast it feels fine. He even had a box of Hornady critical defense he sold me. I was hoping to get to try it out today but I didn't make it but with the weather warming and the days getting longer it will happen soon.
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  • sakodudesakodude Posts: 4,880 Senior Member
    #25
    Nice find. Congrats.
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  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,278 Senior Member
    #26
    I like it! Very pretty, and I particularly like the grips.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
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  • FreezerFreezer Posts: 2,751 Senior Member
    #27
    I like it! Is that the Airlite? If so my friend had one that I fired, and the recoil is snappy but manageable.
    I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter :wink:
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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Posts: 14,838 Senior Member
    #28
    Fits in the front pocket of most Carhartt pants or Ralph Lauren Polo khakis, you are going to have to play with rapid fire, that long pull drops the muzzle for me on the first shot but the muzzle rise in recoil gets the second shot high in rapid fire, buy an appropriate torso shaped target and practice. It is a .38 out of a short barrel, assume you will need multiple hits to stop a threat. I put a Crimson Trace laser grip on mine, it is almost always with me, mostly always on me.
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  • LinefinderLinefinder Posts: 7,856 Senior Member
    edited March 2021 #29
    GunNut said:
    As I mentioned in the thread Zee brought up, I still think in the tiny gun size the Kahr PM9 is a much better gun overall.
    If it's something you're going to have for years and occasionally trust your life on it....pony up the bucks for a PM9. 

    Mike

    ETA....yes, I've handled and shot an LCP. No comparison with the PM9.
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    N454casull
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  • TugarTugar Posts: 2,477 Senior Member
    #30
    Great choice Kansashunter. Not a fan of small autos. They get too small and the handling suffers. A snubbie will serve you well. 
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  • Gene LGene L Posts: 12,815 Senior Member
    #31
    I'm a fan of small autos and J-Frame revolvers.  I have a 442 that is biting but OK after I put rubber on it.  I had a S&W Bodyguard and loved its size but it had so much recoil that the strong DA only trigger would be impossible to pull because the pistol twisted in my grip.  I don't have a pocket pistol (my pockets, anyway) currently, a Sig 365 is the closest.

    Pocket carry for me is difficult because anything I have above my .25 Colt is very difficult to draw unless you have big pockets. 
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
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