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GunNut
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I don’t get this, Glock slides are going for more $$$ than whole guns?
GunNut
Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
Sorry for the longish post but some background on this should help explain why I'm doing this...
As you guys might remember I bought a Glock 43 a while back, mostly for my wife but she’s never cozied up to it and neither did I originally. So as an experiment, I later bought a brand new 43x-48 frame and installed the 43 slide on it basically making myself what I jokingly call a FrankenGlock 43x.
Well, that's the gun that I brought with me to get certified as a trainer and in 3 days I shot over 400 rounds of ammo with a gun that I had shot 10 rounds on just to make sure it cycled ok and it was flawless!!! And I now have to admit I fell in love with the damn thing, enough that I have not had a 1911 on me since I can't remember when!!!
Anyway, so now I have the 43 frame and a bunch of mags laying around so I want to go bak to having two working guns so I started looking for a 43, 43x or 48 slide to put on the 43x frame I bought so I could return the slide back to the original 43.
And, DAMN!!! stripped slides, either Glock or aftermarket are running at about $180 on the low end for a tripped aftermarket to well over $300 on the MOS high end! Then throw in another $150-$200 for a barrel and another $100 for the slide bits to finish it up!!!! So you're looking at about $500 on the low end to get a new slide or take-off.
Complete slides are going for insane money from well over $500+ for a regular 43 slide to over $700 for MOS versions! That is actually higher than a complete new gun!!! People are bidding them up on Gunbroker and eBay like crazy!
So I found solution because while I was at Sportsman's Warehouse picking up my 3rd training 44 I saw a brand new 43x on the wall at pre-panic pricing and snatched it up right then and there, so now I will return the original slide to the 43 and I also just got a brand new 48X MOS on GB for a very good deal so I grabbed that too and that gives me the whole range of carry option on the same platform (43, 43X, 48). And, I'll be listing the original 43x frame on GB because they now bring over $300+ and recover that money. I also now have enough 15 round Shield Arms mags to feed the 43X and 48.
But my real question is WHY are slides more expensive than the actual compete guns? If I shop carefully, and I always do, I can still get a new 43 sub $500, a 43X sub $500 and a 48 MOS sub $600. So paying so much for slides makes no sense to me! Maybe someone can explain this to me? I'm truly curious as to what I'm missing...
As you guys might remember I bought a Glock 43 a while back, mostly for my wife but she’s never cozied up to it and neither did I originally. So as an experiment, I later bought a brand new 43x-48 frame and installed the 43 slide on it basically making myself what I jokingly call a FrankenGlock 43x.
Well, that's the gun that I brought with me to get certified as a trainer and in 3 days I shot over 400 rounds of ammo with a gun that I had shot 10 rounds on just to make sure it cycled ok and it was flawless!!! And I now have to admit I fell in love with the damn thing, enough that I have not had a 1911 on me since I can't remember when!!!
Anyway, so now I have the 43 frame and a bunch of mags laying around so I want to go bak to having two working guns so I started looking for a 43, 43x or 48 slide to put on the 43x frame I bought so I could return the slide back to the original 43.
And, DAMN!!! stripped slides, either Glock or aftermarket are running at about $180 on the low end for a tripped aftermarket to well over $300 on the MOS high end! Then throw in another $150-$200 for a barrel and another $100 for the slide bits to finish it up!!!! So you're looking at about $500 on the low end to get a new slide or take-off.
Complete slides are going for insane money from well over $500+ for a regular 43 slide to over $700 for MOS versions! That is actually higher than a complete new gun!!! People are bidding them up on Gunbroker and eBay like crazy!
So I found solution because while I was at Sportsman's Warehouse picking up my 3rd training 44 I saw a brand new 43x on the wall at pre-panic pricing and snatched it up right then and there, so now I will return the original slide to the 43 and I also just got a brand new 48X MOS on GB for a very good deal so I grabbed that too and that gives me the whole range of carry option on the same platform (43, 43X, 48). And, I'll be listing the original 43x frame on GB because they now bring over $300+ and recover that money. I also now have enough 15 round Shield Arms mags to feed the 43X and 48.
But my real question is WHY are slides more expensive than the actual compete guns? If I shop carefully, and I always do, I can still get a new 43 sub $500, a 43X sub $500 and a 48 MOS sub $600. So paying so much for slides makes no sense to me! Maybe someone can explain this to me? I'm truly curious as to what I'm missing...
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― Douglas Adams
"Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
The again I just realized that even if you are not elegible to own a firearms in the first place, for a whole bunch of any of the right reasons, I guess you could just buy an 80% frame which does not require an FFL, and a complete slide, which does not either, and end up with a perfectly functioning handgun that's untraceable? Except for the fact that Glock serializes the slide and barrel to the gun so this would not work with factory parts which are still selling for obnoxious prices.
In any case I guess I should be thinking more like someone who CAN'T buy a handgun legally going out and buying a Glock illegally in a paper bag from some ghetto dude? I assume then the money works out, though I will admit to not being savvy as to the price of guns in Chicago, New York, LA, Seattle, Washington DC ghettos nowadays.
The days of the anonymous transaction are over. The government, banks, credit cards companies, common carriers, etc share info on everything. Bank of America just supplied the Biden administration the records of EVERY single one of their customers who traveled through, bought tickets to go to, rented cars/hotels etc. around the time of the Washington demonstrations. They said they are just cooperating with an ongoing investigation. Watch for the suits to follow because word got out and a lot of folks are up in arms...
BUT, even if you buy an 80% lower/frame from another party for cash, somewhere there is a record of it leaving the manufacturing facility to be delivered to someone, and if anyone thinks that under duress from the government they won't say who they sold it to they're living in Wonderland.
So unless you're buying from shady street guys on a corner, paying in cash for stuff delivered in little brown bags you are not flying under the radar, and even those are probably under police surveillance anyway.
That's why it's so important to comply with all laws and then decide how to deal with the consequences should they come down the line. They are NOT going to come after the 10s of MILLIONS (and growing by the day) of legal AR and high cap pistol owners in this country. No ONE, not even Harris is THAT stupid...
Well AOC is but we have years before we need to worry about that twit...
Are the 80% lowers superior to OEM? HELL NO! But they DO work if care is taken in machining and assembly. I've seen some 80% Glock clone lowers and AR lowers, and some 1911 lowers, that looked like a demented beaver gnawed them out and you couldn't pay me to fire them. You only get ONE chance to do it right and a drill press and wood router ain't precision machining tools.
― Douglas Adams
― Douglas Adams
How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain
MODS CAN YOU FIND THE REPLY I MADE JUST PRIOR TO THIS ONE? IT WAS RIGHT HERE A MINUTE AGO!
Long story short, there are TWO different groups here. One group (buying the parts and driving up the price who only buy due to no background check and maybe those who just like building) and the other group (buying 3rd gen complete OEM Glocks then selling the slides online for over $500 and then selling the frame on GB for another $200 or whatever they go for, just for profit)
On a side note I got lucky and found the last supply of decent complete slides for G43! Complete for $249 roughly a year ago.
https://flic.kr/p/2kDvfrH
https://flic.kr/p/2kDvfxK
https://www.ebay.com/itm/GLOCK-23-NEW-GEN-3-SLIDE-COMPLETE-WITH-EXTRAS-FITS-P80-POLY80-AND-G19-FRAMES/184669422205?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=0056abc85e8e4f9995955e21a1e1e3dc&pid=100675&rk=1&rkt=15&mehot=none&sd=184669422205&itm=184669422205&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2380057&brand=GLOCK&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:24d68a13-73fa-11eb-849b-2e3c4ee7c694|parentrq:c2c43b601770aaec931acd40ffd28c4e|iid:1
How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain
So a "new" G23 slide(complete), LPK minus the blocks and a 10 round mag? I wouldn't pay more than 300-400 for all of that!