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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,632 Senior Member
    Since the case of covid I had back before Christmas was so minor (felt bad for 2 days, then a week and a half of "snots and sneezes") I still haven't had one, and still have no intentions or desire to get a vaccine that the gov't "emergency approved" AND released the manufacturers from any liability. .

    I'm glad more of you that want it, are able to get it. I stayed at home with actual covid, wife ended up spending 2 days in-patient after her first shot. Then had another ER visit after her second.

    SO I'm still a "HARD PASS", TYVM
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,642 Senior Member
    Went through the Pfizer shots.  First one left a slightly sore spot on my arm for a couple days.  Second one was fine for the first night and up till about morning break the next day.  Then it started to feel like when I get a sinus infection.  By that evening I had a 103* fever.  Took a day to get through all of it and back to normal.   No extra arms have shown up yet.  The job I am on is probably going to require it anyways.  Seeing as how that company is probably about 50% of the work in the local it would be wise to just go with it and forget about it.
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    I had Pfizer too and outside some mild discomfort it was fine and I’m really enjoying my new third testicle.  I just wish it had come out someplace other than the center of my chest.  

    On a positive note I’m enjoying slow dancing with my wife much more than I have in years…
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 1,164 Senior Member
    The government said I should get it, therfore I'll never get it.
    We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,850 Senior Member
    The government said I should get it, therfore I'll never get it.
    Forget the Government.  How about because friends and family would hate to lose you?

    I don't know about a 3rd testicle, someone told me my you know what would double in size.  Wife told me to get a double dose.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,986 Senior Member
    If the worst side effect is my vestigial tail falling off and finally being able to see in colors, fine for me.


  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Antonio said:
    If the worst side effect is my vestigial tail falling off and finally being able to see in colors, fine for me.


    Winner!  Can you taste water yet?
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 1,164 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    The government said I should get it, therfore I'll never get it.
    Forget the Government.  How about because friends and family would hate to lose you?

    I don't know about a 3rd testicle, someone told me my you know what would double in size.  Wife told me to get a double dose.
    I get what you mean but I'd rather take my chances with my own immune system. People have survived for millenia with just that. Im also a true believer of it being your time when it's your time and im not much of a religious man anymore.
    We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,986 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Antonio said:
    If the worst side effect is my vestigial tail falling off and finally being able to see in colors, fine for me.


    Winner!  Can you taste water yet?

    Still having the metallic taste from the aluminum bowl they pour it into for me.

    Shoulder pain is gone. 
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Antonio said:
    GunNut said:
    Antonio said:
    If the worst side effect is my vestigial tail falling off and finally being able to see in colors, fine for me.


    Winner!  Can you taste water yet?

    Still having the metallic taste from the aluminum bowl they pour it into for me.

    Shoulder pain is gone. 
    Oh good you’re ahead of schedule!
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,850 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    The government said I should get it, therfore I'll never get it.
    Forget the Government.  How about because friends and family would hate to lose you?

    I don't know about a 3rd testicle, someone told me my you know what would double in size.  Wife told me to get a double dose.
    I get what you mean but I'd rather take my chances with my own immune system. People have survived for millenia with just that. Im also a true believer of it being your time when it's your time and im not much of a religious man anymore.
    I am a true believer in choice.  As long as you are comfortable with it 
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,986 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    The government said I should get it, therfore I'll never get it.
    Forget the Government.  How about because friends and family would hate to lose you?

    I don't know about a 3rd testicle, someone told me my you know what would double in size.  Wife told me to get a double dose.
    I get what you mean but I'd rather take my chances with my own immune system. People have survived for millenia with just that. Im also a true believer of it being your time when it's your time and im not much of a religious man anymore.
    Was talking yesterday to a guy who is buying me a 1300 shotgun and happens to be a neurologist who is "in the covid trenches" at a local public hospital, so he usually sees the worst and more advanced cases due to poor nutriton, too late reaction, misinformation, etc. He said to me that they have observed that -and I figure most of you already know this- worst cases have a VERY HIGH vitamin D deficiency, that those of black ancestry usually die quite fast from circulatory-related complications, and those of higher testosterone levels, usually related to baldness, or overweight will usually last very few days once they have to be plugged to oxigen.

    So if you're going to trust your immune system, it might be wise to begin taking some extra sun and eating more "blue" saltwater fish like tuna, mackerel, etc. According to him, vitamine capsules are good, but the natural way is far better.
  • AlleyCatAlleyCat Posts: 480 Member
    edited July 8 #104
    I get what you mean but I'd rather take my chances with my own immune system. People have survived for millenia with just that.

    .

  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    I haven't had the vaccination and don't intend to, at this point. I have worn a mask a few times, when it was required to gain entry to some place I wanted to go, but I don't think they make very much difference when you consider how the average person uses them. Social distancing, yes, that is just common sense. Handwashing, yes, also obvious.

    I traveled over about a third of Texas, including the Houston and Dallas domed professional stadiums, during the high school football playoffs, as did most of my extended family, with no known ill effects. There were large crowds at every location. Rural Texans in my area have mostly been living their lives fairly normally throughout all of this, including letting the kids go to school and continue most of their peripheral activities.

    I know that many areas have been hit hard by this, but I believe the statistics being put out by some pretty smart people that show about a 99% recovery rate, nationwide, without the vaccine. Yes, I know that every political faction has their own set of statistics, but my gut feeling is that this crisis has been heavily exploited and that the government and the media is engaging in massive misinformation. I'm not an "Anti Vaxer" - I've had numerous vaccinations throughout my long life, but that was during a time when I trusted information from the government a little bit more.

    From my point of reference, the case for these non-FDA approved vaccines has not been made, by comparing the survival rate without the vaccine to the rate of serious side effects from the vaccine.
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 1,164 Senior Member
    bisley said:
    I haven't had the vaccination and don't intend to, at this point. I have worn a mask a few times, when it was required to gain entry to some place I wanted to go, but I don't think they make very much difference when you consider how the average person uses them. Social distancing, yes, that is just common sense. Handwashing, yes, also obvious.

    I traveled over about a third of Texas, including the Houston and Dallas domed professional stadiums, during the high school football playoffs, as did most of my extended family, with no known ill effects. There were large crowds at every location. Rural Texans in my area have mostly been living their lives fairly normally throughout all of this, including letting the kids go to school and continue most of their peripheral activities.

    I know that many areas have been hit hard by this, but I believe the statistics being put out by some pretty smart people that show about a 99% recovery rate, nationwide, without the vaccine. Yes, I know that every political faction has their own set of statistics, but my gut feeling is that this crisis has been heavily exploited and that the government and the media is engaging in massive misinformation. I'm not an "Anti Vaxer" - I've had numerous vaccinations throughout my long life, but that was during a time when I trusted information from the government a little bit more.

    From my point of reference, the case for these non-FDA approved vaccines has not been made, by comparing the survival rate without the vaccine to the rate of serious side effects from the vaccine.
    You just worded my exact thoughts that I knew I couldn't articulate well enough to say.
    We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,539 Senior Member
    A friend of mine who got the vaccine back when they first came out just tested positive today for COVID. 

    So, there is that. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,750 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    A friend of mine who got the vaccine back when they first came out just tested positive today for COVID. 

    So, there is that. 
    Color me shocked at this news... SHOCKED I SAY!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    95% effective so someone has to draw the 5% card.  Sucks it had to be your buddy.  We'll pray for him.
  • AlleyCatAlleyCat Posts: 480 Member

    A vaccine pre warns your immune response to a hostile threat It doesn't mean that it will prevent you being infected, it helps prevent the disease state caused by the virus by giving your immune system a head start on it.

    A simple way to think of it.

     Someone with COVID sneezes and coughs all over you (you being a fully vaccinated person), you'll end up with COVID in you and have become infected. Because your immune system has seen it already, you (one the 95%)  **** it off and kill it before it has a chance to do anything other than sit there.

     How effective that second part is depends on a lot of things, you may notice nothing at all (you normally have a couple of viruses onboard at any one time), the virus takes a slight hold and causes a minor disease state before your WBC spring into action.

     Or you are one of the 5% and your immune system blows it/something has changed with the virus that hampers your response and you get the full blown disease state.

    The vaccine can then make an infection less virulent with less transmission happening.

     

    Try and think of other people


    Zee said:
    So, there is that. 





  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,539 Senior Member
    I don’t get the flu shot. Not getting this one either. Just because I don’t get the flu shot either. So, why start now?
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,744 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    I don’t get the flu shot. Not getting this one either. Just because I don’t get the flu shot either. So, why start now?
    Frankly, don't see a reason to at your age...you're healthy and active...I didn't start with the flu or pneumonia shots until I was 65 and that was only at the insistence of my Dr. whom I trust
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    Zee said:
    I don’t get the flu shot. Not getting this one either. Just because I don’t get the flu shot either. So, why start now?
    Frankly, don't see a reason to at your age...you're healthy and active...I didn't start with the flu or pneumonia shots until I was 65 and that was only at the insistence of my Dr. whom I trust
    Yep, I started mine at 60 for the same reason.  Never had one before but I’ve had no ill effects and I trust my Doctor implicitly, she’s brilliant and really an excellent Physician who really works with me to keep me healthy.  I’m one of the few odd souls that actually looks forward to my Doctor Office visits.
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 1,164 Senior Member
    AlleyCat said:

    A vaccine pre warns your immune response to a hostile threat It doesn't mean that it will prevent you being infected, it helps prevent the disease state caused by the virus by giving your immune system a head start on it.

    A simple way to think of it.

     Someone with COVID sneezes and coughs all over you (you being a fully vaccinated person), you'll end up with COVID in you and have become infected. Because your immune system has seen it already, you (one the 95%)  **** it off and kill it before it has a chance to do anything other than sit there.

     How effective that second part is depends on a lot of things, you may notice nothing at all (you normally have a couple of viruses onboard at any one time), the virus takes a slight hold and causes a minor disease state before your WBC spring into action.

     Or you are one of the 5% and your immune system blows it/something has changed with the virus that hampers your response and you get the full blown disease state.

    The vaccine can then make an infection less virulent with less transmission happening.

     

    Try and think of other people


    Zee said:
    So, there is that. 





    I dont gamble my well being for other peoples well being, and I surely won't be guilted to do so either. 
    We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 13,665 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    A friend of mine who got the vaccine back when they first came out just tested positive today for COVID. 

    So, there is that. 
    How is he feeling? Did he have covid before he got the vaccine?
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,539 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 said:
    Zee said:
    A friend of mine who got the vaccine back when they first came out just tested positive today for COVID. 

    So, there is that. 
    How is he feeling? Did he have covid before he got the vaccine?
    Haven’t talked to him. No. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • AlleyCatAlleyCat Posts: 480 Member
    edited July 10 #117
    AlleyCat said:

    A vaccine pre warns your immune response to a hostile threat It doesn't mean that it will prevent you being infected, it helps prevent the disease state caused by the virus by giving your immune system a head start on it.

    A simple way to think of it.

     Someone with COVID sneezes and coughs all over you (you being a fully vaccinated person), you'll end up with COVID in you and have become infected. Because your immune system has seen it already, you (one the 95%)  **** it off and kill it before it has a chance to do anything other than sit there.

     How effective that second part is depends on a lot of things, you may notice nothing at all (you normally have a couple of viruses onboard at any one time), the virus takes a slight hold and causes a minor disease state before your WBC spring into action.

     Or you are one of the 5% and your immune system blows it/something has changed with the virus that hampers your response and you get the full blown disease state.

    The vaccine can then make an infection less virulent with less transmission happening.

     

    Try and think of other people


    Zee said:
    So, there is that. 





    I dont gamble my well being for other peoples well being, and I surely won't be guilted to do so either. 

    Do you remember these?

    Polio

    Tetanus

    The Flu (Influenza)

    Hepatitis B

    Hepatitis A

    Rubella

    Hib ( Haemophilus influenzae type b)

    Measles

    Whooping Cough (Pertussis)

    Pneumococcal Disease

    Rotavirus

    Mumps

    Chickenpox

    Diphtheria


    All killers, predominantly of very small children.

    My 14 month old grandson will not be one of those.

     

    But we will put the clock back just so you don't feel too guilted, bless your heart.

     








  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,750 Senior Member
    Oh boy, another Koolaide drinker.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 1,164 Senior Member


    Do you remember these?

    Polio

    Tetanus

    The Flu (Influenza)

    Hepatitis B

    Hepatitis A

    Rubella

    Hib ( Haemophilus influenzae type b)

    Measles

    Whooping Cough (Pertussis)

    Pneumococcal Disease

    Rotavirus

    Mumps

    Chickenpox

    Diphtheria


    All killers, predominantly of very small children.

    My 14 month old grandson will not be one of those.

     

    But we will put the clock back just so you don't feel too guilted, bless your heart.

     








    All of those which were tested for YEARS before being brought to market, not just developed in 10 months and then put to use on humans in hopes that all ends well. I actually have restless leg syndrome. Many people still haven't heard of it and I won't sit here to try to explain what it is because it's not pertinent to my point here but some people have it so bad that they committ suicide because it drives them crazy enough to do so. Do you know the long term effects of that vaccine that you trust so much? Reason I ask is because there's alot of things in this world that's worse than death. 
    We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,986 Senior Member
    Couple of doctors who also are researchers I spoke with said that with current simulators and scientific procedures labs have a VERY good chance of doing things right on the run, unlike previous vaccines like those listed above that due to scientific restrictions they had back when developed (Many between the late 1800s and mid-1900s) needed lots of "hit & miss" experimentations, trials, tests, etc.

    Not saying that they could have delivered an unperfect product but with current situation I think that taking the chance is better than risking a deadly infection either to you or any of those around you.

    BTW although greatly contained, many of those diseases are still active down here in the 3rld. world in small pockets that pop out every once in a while and trust me, results can be nasty to those unlucky enough to catch any of them and have devastating consequences to their relatives.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,750 Senior Member
    edited July 10 #121
    If the vaccine is as effective as its apologists want us to believe, then what difference does it make to others whether a person gets it or not? They're vaccinated, thus protected (by their logic).
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
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