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• Freezer Senior Member Posts: 2,384 Senior Member

  March 23 #2

  Were those used as punt guns on the front of a duck boat back in the day?

  I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter

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• Jayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,143 Senior Member

  March 23 #3

  Freezer said:

  Were those used as punt guns on the front of a duck boat back in the day?

  That one was a 26 pound "stopping rifle" for dangerous game. It used a half pound round ball or turned bronze projectile...

  Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"

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• Zee Senior Member Posts: 27,562 Senior Member

  March 23 #4

  Hold my beer. 

  "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  

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• PFD Senior Member Posts: 1,735 Senior Member

  March 23 #5

  Freezer said:

  Were those used as punt guns on the front of a duck boat back in the day?

  I wondered the same thing until I saw the rifling.
  

  That's all I got.
  
  Paul

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• Bigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,398 Senior Member

  March 24 #6

  Zee said:

  Hold my beer. 

  I'll fill the mold!
  
  A 3,500 grain round ball. . .probably a little lighter if patches are involved. . .considerably heavier if using conicals. . .
  
  Between the bullet mass and the probable powder charge, my eyes are crossing a little. . .

  WWJMBD?
  
  "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee

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• Zee Senior Member Posts: 27,562 Senior Member

  March 24 #7

  Maybe two beers. 

  "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  

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• Zee Senior Member Posts: 27,562 Senior Member

  March 24 #8

  But Knitepoet can kiss my ass. I’ll take it. 😘

  "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  

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• Elk creek Senior Member Posts: 7,415 Senior Member

  March 24 #9

  What? No repeater? 

  Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.

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• zorba Senior Member Posts: 25,041 Senior Member

  March 24 #10

  A half pounder cannon!
  

  -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"
  
  

  "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

  )O(
  

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• Justsomedude Posts: 1,323 Senior Member

  March 24 #11

  zorba said:

  A half pounder cannon!
  

  That was my thought, a man wielded cannon.

  We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 

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• Spk Senior Member Posts: 4,746 Senior Member

  March 24 #12

  3500 grain round ball
  

  270 grain powder charge

  1500 fps velocity

  26 pound gun
  

  
  

  531 ft-lbf Free Recoil Energy

  36.26 fps Free Recoil Velocity

  🤔
  

  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  Yep, I'll pass.

  ☢️

  
  

  
  
  
  

  Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
  How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain
  
  

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• Varmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,999 Senior Member

  March 24 #13

  I'd go ..... once
  

  It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.

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• gunner81 Member Posts: 625 Senior Member

  March 24 #14

  my shoulder hurts just looking at it and I'm not recoil sensitive but also not an idiot LOL

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• Bigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,398 Senior Member

  March 24 #15

  Spk said:

  531 ft-lbf Free Recoil Energy

  36.26 fps Free Recoil Velocity

  
  

  ☢️

  Free Recoil Isn't Free!

  WWJMBD?
  
  "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee

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• Wambli Ska Posts: 3,235 Senior Member

  March 24 #16

  I’d probably be stupid enough to try it.  My attitude has always been, if anyone else shot it and didn’t die, then I’ll take a turn!

  I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬

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• bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,085 Senior Member

  March 24 #17

  Hell yes, I would!
  
  
  

  To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
  -Mikhail Kalashnikov

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• Jay Senior Member Posts: 4,370 Senior Member

  March 24 edited March 24 #18

  Wait, the pic shows a ramrod under the barrel and there's reference to it possibly taking a round ball, but there's a picture of a 2 bore cartridge next to a 45-70 case. Is it a muzzle loader or cartridge gun?  Or I'm guessing a round ball or bronze projectile is seated in the cartridge and the ramrod is just for swabbing the bore after firing?

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• Jayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,143 Senior Member

  March 24 #19

  In that period, it was common for cartridge guns to have a ramrod included for cleaning..look at the 1873 "Trapdoor" Springfield for instance...black powder fouling remained a problem...

  Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"

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• Jay Senior Member Posts: 4,370 Senior Member

  March 24 #20

  Thanks for the clarification. I do recall that being the case when BP metallic cartridges came out. I have no personal experience and not much knowledge of those kinds of guns. So I was curious. 
  
  

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• mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,772 Senior Member

  March 24 #21

  Going to have to pass on that.  I already have enough shoulder issues.

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• Ernie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 8,527 Senior Member

  March 24 #22

  Zee said:

  Hold my beer. 

  
  You need that shoulder work anyway.....
  

  Ernie
  
  "The Un-Tactical"

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• Wambli Ska Posts: 3,235 Senior Member

  March 24 #23

  Ernie Bishop said:

  Zee said:

  Hold my beer. 

  
  You need that shoulder work anyway.....
  

  Again...

  I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬

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• Linefinder Moderator Posts: 7,762 Senior Member

  March 24 #24

  Having received a cortisone shot in my right shoulder a month ago, and feeling like I might be able to shoot a .270 again...I think I'll pass.
  
  Mike

  "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
  N454casull
  

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• Japhy Posts: 290 Member

  March 25 #25

  When it’s mounted on an axle and a hydraulic recoil system it’s a howitzer

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• Spk Senior Member Posts: 4,746 Senior Member

  March 25 #26

  Bigslug said:

  Spk said:

  531 ft-lbf Free Recoil Energy

  36.26 fps Free Recoil Velocity

  
  

  ☢️

  Free Recoil Isn't Free!

  
  Oh yeah, you'll pay a price for that Free. 😵
  

  Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
  How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain
  
  

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• Freezer Senior Member Posts: 2,384 Senior Member

  March 25 #27

  Wambli Ska said:

  I’d probably be stupid enough to try it.  My attitude has always been, if anyone else shot it and didn’t die, then I’ll take a turn!

  I might be bold and might be brave but, you're first.

  I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter

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• Wambli Ska Posts: 3,235 Senior Member

  March 26 #28

  Freezer said:

  Wambli Ska said:

  I’d probably be stupid enough to try it.  My attitude has always been, if anyone else shot it and didn’t die, then I’ll take a turn!

  I might be bold and might be brave but, you're first.

  Nope, looks painful and dangerous.  You go first 😁

  I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬

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• Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 12,190 Senior Member

  March 26 #29

  I will hold your beer.....

  Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5

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• zorba Senior Member Posts: 25,041 Senior Member

  March 26 #30

  Diver43 said:

  I will hold your beer.....

  
  You might as well drink it, he's not gonna be in any shape to consume it afterwards!
  

  -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"
  
  

  "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

  )O(
  

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• Bigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,398 Senior Member

  March 26 #31

  Trying to wrap my brain around the logistics of such a thing. . .
  
  Sure, it was pretty common for safaris and professional hunters to have a retinue of native porters to carry guns, gear, and supplies around, but to actually have such a thing in hand when you needed it HAD to be a major challenge.  A single round of ammo weighs as much as a lot of pistols.
  
  And, yes, it makes a big, effective hole, but trying to use such a gun quickly against a large, angry  animal in thick cover would be a lot like trying to shoot skeet with. . .I dunno. . .a fire hose?
  
  I think instead of a "stopping rifle", a rifle like that might have served better as a professional hunter's opening move, the logic being that "If you don't want to risk getting stomped following your bull elephant into heavy brush, shoot him with this thing."

  WWJMBD?
  
  "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee

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