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Wonder what "brandon" is going to do today about "ghost guns"

GrapeApeGrapeApe Posts: 379 Member
Heard that Alzheimers in chief is expected to make a big, gun control, announcement today.

Curious how bad his handlers are going to make it?
 
"For longer range, use a bigger case. For bigger game, use a bigger bullet." - Dan Johnson

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  • PFDPFD Senior Member PNWPosts: 1,806 Senior Member
    Hopefully, the reminder that congress makes laws and POTUS executes them (sometimes) will prevail.
    That's all I got.

    Paul
  • GrapeApeGrapeApe Posts: 379 Member
    PFD said:
    Hopefully, the reminder that congress makes laws and POTUS executes them (sometimes) will prevail.
    We can hope
    "For longer range, use a bigger case. For bigger game, use a bigger bullet." - Dan Johnson
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Living in a van, down by the river.Posts: 13,993 Senior Member
    edited April 11 #4
    PFD said:
    Hopefully, the reminder that congress makes laws and POTUS executes them (sometimes) will prevail.
    The ATF can just have a "finding" and make a new regulation.  See: bump stocks.  IIRC, that was an issue where a Republican Congress wanted something to prevent the sale, but didn't want to go on record as passing a law (gotta keep that NRA rating high) so they let an Executive Office agency make a regulation.  

    And before I get the "a bump stock isn't a firearm," well, neither is a hunk of slightly milled/finished aluminum or plastic.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Between Ft Lauderdale and MiamiPosts: 12,455 Senior Member
    Executive Order Banning Ghost Guns
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • PFDPFD Senior Member PNWPosts: 1,806 Senior Member
    I wonder if this might affect EBR rifle kits?
    As in everything BUT the lower?
    That's all I got.

    Paul
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,617 Senior Member
    Hey. . .if Geezy wants to pour additional (overpriced) gasoline on his party's mid-term election funeral pyre by flapping his gums about more draconian gun control measures and elevating Beto O'Rourke to head of the ATF. . .

    For those about to rock, I salute you! :D
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • JaphyJaphy Posts: 394 Member
    Time to put the CNC code for a complete MA2 in the public domain
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 4,130 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    Executive Order Banning Ghost Guns
    It will be challenged all the way to the Suoreme Court.  Another move meant to pander to the fringe that’s going to backfire on them.  I can’t wait for November…

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,617 Senior Member
    Was not the Colonial Militia requirement that each man provide his own small arms?  And would not the regulation of a man trying to make his own small arms be a pretty gross infringement? 

    I've never had one law class, and I'm finding this defense pretty easy to construct.  And I haven't even gotten into the fact that the reason these libiots are crying for more gun control is the repeat offenders they insist on both not hanging and then letting out of jail.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • rberglofrberglof Senior Member North DakotaPosts: 2,970 Senior Member
    Well brandon said that one can be made in as little as thirty minutes. 
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,252 Senior Member
    Oh, there are lots of little gotchas in the ruling.  There is a requirement for any unserialized weapon that goes through an FFL will need to be serialized- the FFL will be required to serialize it and run it on a 4473.  

    With the requirement for uppers to now be serialized- that could be now read to mean every time an FFL gets an upper in for repair he may be required to serialize it and have you fill out a 4473 for it.

    With the modularity of ARs- will the ATF now start frowning on mis-matched uppers and lowers?  Will you have to get a stamp for both the upper and lower for an SBR?  Or do you just serialize and stamp the upper, and it’s cool to slap it on any lower?

    As something that is supposed to be a ‘clarification’, it seems to be written to specifically obfuscate the issue.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Between Ft Lauderdale and MiamiPosts: 12,455 Senior Member
    Oh, there are lots of little gotchas in the ruling.  There is a requirement for any unserialized weapon that goes through an FFL will need to be serialized- the FFL will be required to serialize it and run it on a 4473.  

    With the requirement for uppers to now be serialized- that could be now read to mean every time an FFL gets an upper in for repair he may be required to serialize it and have you fill out a 4473 for it.

    With the modularity of ARs- will the ATF now start frowning on mis-matched uppers and lowers?  Will you have to get a stamp for both the upper and lower for an SBR?  Or do you just serialize and stamp the upper, and it’s cool to slap it on any lower?

    As something that is supposed to be a ‘clarification’, it seems to be written to specifically obfuscate the issue.
    I believe this is the exact intent.
    Make it so confusing that nobody can figure it out.  He told so many kies during that press conference it wasn't even funny.  Put a few parts on table saying anyone can do it.  Yeh sure they can.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Panama City, Fl.Posts: 8,639 Senior Member
    I was waiting for him to assemble it!! B)
  • JaphyJaphy Posts: 394 Member
    The exec order is some 200+ pages so it will take awhile to be understood. 

    is there a requirement to have the manufacturers name also?

    parts could just be numbered without traceability to the manufacturer or purchaser. 
  • rberglofrberglof Senior Member North DakotaPosts: 2,970 Senior Member
    Sounds like this had been written some time ago waiting for the "right moment in time".
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