Racist or Not?

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  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    I mean something much more mundane than you seem to be implying. I'm am talking about the world/universe we inhabit from the stars and galaxies, to our friends and neighbors, down to atoms and molecules, etc. We all inhabit the same objective reality we just have different ways we chose to perceive and interpret it.

    Universe, stars, galaxies, people, atoms, molecules, etc. and you call that mundane??? And we just have different ways we chose to perceive and interpret it, implying that there is a conflict concerning what is true about this "only one truth/reality" (which you are willing to leave up to the finite) and you are suggesting that this is mundane???? Interesting indeed - well my offer to discuss this between you and me still stands, unless that is to mundane. :jester: Well I enjoyed it while it lasted :jester:
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,102 Senior Member
    I get a kick out of folks who say they aren't racist.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,458 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    I get a kick out of folks who say they aren't racist.

    A couple days ago, I looked out our front window and saw two girls walking up to a neighbors front door. They were white, had on long sleeve shirts, skirts to their ankles and were carrying something. Since I am ethnocentric, sexist, and believe in religious stereotypes. I assumed they were Jehovahs and shut the front door and shut the blinds...... :tooth:

    You know what? I was also completely right...... Took the neighbor 1/2 an hour to get rid of them.

    I made assumptions based on the color of their skin, their sex, the way they dressed, and the way they carried themselves.. Just like everyone else does......
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • QuinianQuinian Senior Member Posts: 707 Senior Member
    Is the sticker racist? eh.. Probably.

    Is it still funny? Yeah a little

    I think to some extent we could all be considered a bit racist, or you could say we all "profile" everyone. For example: I see a black man wearing a suit and walking like a normal person - I will probably not even think twice about him and forget I ever saw him (unless I really liked the suit) a few mins later. Of course I'd be the same about a white guy.

    Now say I saw a black man saggin his pants, bandana, shirt 3 sizes too big, and gold chains. I'd watch him like a hawk until I was away from him or I was sure he wasn't going to be a threat, but then again it's not his skin color as I'd do the exact same thing to a white guy dressed like that.

    Everyone tried tellin me I wasn't voting for Obummer because I'm a redneck racist from the south. I tell everyone the same thing: I wouldn't care if he were a transgendered ET, with pink polka dot and green skin, who was bi-sexual, or you know just "another old white dude" I don't like his policys and I think he's bad for the country.

    I don't think race is really quite the issue the media would have you believe. I think that "the establishment" who ever "they" may be, purposefully try to make race an issue be it black, hispanic, or middle eastern. Most people I know have no problem with hispanics in general, they have a huge problem with illigal immigration. Most people I know don't have a problem with blacks in general, they have a huge problem with gang bangers and thugs (yeah the white ones too). Most people I know don't have a problem with middle eastern people in general, they have a huge problem with religious whack jobs who wanna kill everyone. I'm willin to bet if everyone would quit playin the race card every 5 seconds and point out what ever the actual problem is, more things would get settled with less pointless bickering.
  • robert38-55robert38-55 Senior Member Posts: 3,621 Senior Member
    ADRidge wrote: »
    It's all good. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I just cannot stand reading a wall of text. I apologize if I got under your skin at all.

    No Worries ADRidge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You didn't get to me man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Opinions and view points, this is what the G & A board is about!!!!! keep up the good work!!!!
    I know I get carried away with some topic with, especially when I have an interest in them, most of us do.... I ain't no writer nor gunsmith I know that.I have been posting here since
    1999, and if ya think no paragraphs are bad [which they are, and especially on a long post] you should have been here back in the day before spell check!!!!:spittingcoffee:
    "It is what it is":usa:
  • robert38-55robert38-55 Senior Member Posts: 3,621 Senior Member
    Quinian wrote: »
    Is the sticker racist? eh.. Probably.

    Is it still funny? Yeah a little

    I think to some extent we could all be considered a bit racist, or you could say we all "profile" everyone. For example: I see a black man wearing a suit and walking like a normal person - I will probably not even think twice about him and forget I ever saw him (unless I really liked the suit) a few mins later. Of course I'd be the same about a white guy.

    Now say I saw a black man saggin his pants, bandana, shirt 3 sizes too big, and gold chains. I'd watch him like a hawk until I was away from him or I was sure he wasn't going to be a threat, but then again it's not his skin color as I'd do the exact same thing to a white guy dressed like that.

    Everyone tried tellin me I wasn't voting for Obummer because I'm a redneck racist from the south. I tell everyone the same thing: I wouldn't care if he were a transgendered ET, with pink polka dot and green skin, who was bi-sexual, or you know just "another old white dude" I don't like his policys and I think he's bad for the country.

    I don't think race is really quite the issue the media would have you believe. I think that "the establishment" who ever "they" may be, purposefully try to make race an issue be it black, hispanic, or middle eastern. Most people I know have no problem with hispanics in general, they have a huge problem with illigal immigration. Most people I know don't have a problem with blacks in general, they have a huge problem with gang bangers and thugs (yeah the white ones too). Most people I know don't have a problem with middle eastern people in general, they have a huge problem with religious whack jobs who wanna kill everyone. I'm willin to bet if everyone would quit playin the race card every 5 seconds and point out what ever the actual problem is, more things would get settled with less pointless bickering.

    I agree:worthy::applause::that::agree::win:
    "It is what it is":usa:
  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 8,585 Senior Member
    jbp-ohio wrote: »
    A couple days ago, I looked out our front window and saw two girls walking up to a neighbors front door. They were white, had on long sleeve shirts, skirts to their ankles and were carrying something. Since I am ethnocentric, sexist, and believe in religious stereotypes. I assumed they were Jehovahs and shut the front door and shut the blinds...... :tooth:

    You know what? I was also completely right...... Took the neighbor 1/2 an hour to get rid of them.

    I made assumptions based on the color of their skin, their sex, the way they dressed, and the way they carried themselves.. Just like everyone else does......

    There is a difference between stereotyping and racism. We all stereotype and a sometimes those stereotypes aren't always fair or correct, but that's not necessarily racism.
    "Finding out that you have run out of toilet paper is a good example of lack of preparation, buying 10 years worth is silly"
    -DoctorWho
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,552 Senior Member
    Racism is just a word, so overused and misused that it's lost its sting to most folks. Hell, I was called a racist by a telemarketer one time, just because I told him why I did not donate to the Fraternal Order of the Police (they use the money to buy influence in Congress, for issues that I don't support). He called me a Republican racist, and no reference had been made to me being a Republican, anybody's race, or anything else that would have triggered such an accusation. I simply told him I did not support the same issues that the FPO does.

    For my part, I consider it to be nobody's business what my prejudices are, as long as I treat people with at least the minimum amount of respect that anyone deserves.
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,458 Senior Member
    There is a difference between stereotyping and racism. We all stereotype and a sometimes those stereotypes aren't always fair or correct, but that's not necessarily racism.

    Not according to the Rhyming Reverends......
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • WheelWheel Member Posts: 102 Member
    I hate pink and purple paisley polka-dotted Martian hermaphrodites.

    I'm strangely comfortable with pink and purple paisley polka-dotted Martian hermaphrodites who are Constitutionalist Libertarians.

    But, that's just my opinion.

    I could be wrong.
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    jbp-ohio wrote: »
    A couple days ago, I looked out our front window and saw two girls walking up to a neighbors front door. They were white, had on long sleeve shirts, skirts to their ankles and were carrying something. Since I am ethnocentric, sexist, and believe in religious stereotypes. I assumed they were Jehovahs and shut the front door and shut the blinds...... :tooth:

    You know what? I was also completely right...... Took the neighbor 1/2 an hour to get rid of them.

    I made assumptions based on the color of their skin, their sex, the way they dressed, and the way they carried themselves.. Just like everyone else does......

    When I was a LEO, there was a knock at My door, I was stumbling all around with gear, trying to get organized enough to be on My way, it was a pair of female JWs, I opened the door all the way, and when they saw My gear a couple of long arms and a holstered sidearm etc.... I heard them stammer hamana hamana hamana hamana we will come back later when you are less busy, I never saw them again.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,458 Senior Member
    DoctorWho wrote: »
    When I was a LEO, there was a knock at My door, I was stumbling all around with gear, trying to get organized enough to be on My way, it was a pair of female JWs, I opened the door all the way, and when they saw My gear a couple of long arms and a holstered sidearm etc.... I heard them stammer hamana hamana hamana hamana we will come back later when you are less busy, I never saw them again.

    Also using my stereotyping of Ja-ho-vees, I figured they weren't alone. Once I started looking out different windows, I saw 4 more. I have a 3'' x 6'' NO SOLICITING sign at my door bell, and for some unknown reason they didn't ring it this time. Doesn't normally stop them...
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • 104RFAST104RFAST Senior Member Posts: 1,262 Senior Member
    Alpha, I think you are a political hack, I don't think you even own a gun.
    Yes it is clearly racist. News flash, racists do in fact still exist. However, it is also being used to try and paint a much larger portion of the country as racist which is also wrong.

    A saying I've heard before is:

    Not all republicans are racist, but all racists are republicans.

    This statement is largely true, but it's also dirty political trick. This sort of charged rhetoric and word association type statements are targeted at the unthinking masses who bombed their SATs and unfortunately they work to a large degree. It is the same sort of strategy used by so many conservative talk show personalities that's helped convince so many people that Obama is actually a Muslim. Just part of the dirty world of partisan politics.
  • Dr. dbDr. db Senior Member Posts: 1,541 Senior Member
    Alpha is right. Racism does exist. For most of a century it was an overt part of the Democratic party. It is now part of the "you can't make it without government" mentality.
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,102 Senior Member
    I thought the bumper sticker was straight-up hilarious. There. I said it.

    But it doesn't mean I am a hateful racist. I can find irony funny without being hateful.

    Black comedians integrate (using this word ironically) racist remarks in their routines about white people all the time--not to mention copious amounts of stereotyping.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • SlanteyedshootistSlanteyedshootist Senior Member Posts: 3,947 Senior Member
    It seems to me that only white folk are accused of racism. If you're a "minority", you can't be racist, can you???:roll:
    The answer to 1984 is 1776
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,458 Senior Member
    It seems to me that only white folk are accused of racism. If you're a "minority", you can't be racist, can you???:roll:

    As I posted elsewhere. One of George Zimmermans relatives stated on the news, ''George is not a racist, he's Hispanic.''
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,897 Senior Member
    It seems to me that only white folk are accused of racism. If you're a "minority", you can't be racist, can you???:roll:
    You need sensitivity training.:nono:
    A Veteran is someone that served in the Military, it does not matter where they served.
  • SlanteyedshootistSlanteyedshootist Senior Member Posts: 3,947 Senior Member
    No I don't. I'm AJA and thus a minority. We're born sensitive and all that stuff.:rotflmao:
    The answer to 1984 is 1776
  • EliEli Senior Member Posts: 3,074 Senior Member
    104RFAST wrote: »
    Alpha, I think you are a political hack, I don't think you even own a gun.


    Even though I tend to disagree with about 90% of the political stuff Chris posts........THAT (the part that's bolded) is the stupidest thing I've ever seen posted on this forum.
  • ghostsniper1ghostsniper1 Banned Posts: 2,645 Senior Member
    Im not racist. If I were, I would judge everyone the moment I saw them. I dont judge anyone, but base my bias off of what they show me of themselves. Somebody please do me a favor and google statistics of crime and race. I think the results will be obvious. It is what it is. If, just IF i were to be racist, why the hell do others care? Whippdy doo if I do hate someone because of their race, sex, religion, etc??? Its my perogative. I could care less who hates me and why, even if it is for an assinine reason. Call me a cracker, oh well. Call me a Mick, oh well. I'll still go about my business just as you will yours. As for the bumper sticker, it kinda bunches us republicans as racist black haters by the opinion of one idiot.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,053 Senior Member
    Eli wrote: »
    Even though I tend to disagree with about 90% of the political stuff Chris posts........THAT (the part that's bolded) is the stupidest thing I've ever seen posted on this forum.

    Yep. Me, Eli, and quite a few other members here on this forum have had the privilege to meet Alpha (Chris) and he is good people. We differ a bit politically, but he is one of us. If you were to meet him in the flesh, you would know that he is a good guy.

    I stake my honor on that.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,897 Senior Member
    No I don't. I'm AJA and thus a minority. We're born sensitive and all that stuff.:rotflmao:
    :yikes: Al Jazeera Arabic
    A Veteran is someone that served in the Military, it does not matter where they served.
  • SlanteyedshootistSlanteyedshootist Senior Member Posts: 3,947 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    :yikes: Al Jazeera Arabic

    :spittingcoffee::rotflmao::roll2:
    The answer to 1984 is 1776
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    Yep. Me, Eli, and quite a few other members here on this forum have had the privilege to meet Alpha (Chris) and he is good people. We differ a bit politically, but he is one of us. If you were to meet him in the flesh, you would know that he is a good guy.

    I state my honor on that.

    Stake my honor !!!! In other words you are willing to risk damage to your credibility / reputation by vouching for Chris.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,053 Senior Member
    Mmmmmmmm.... Steak!:tooth:
  • EliEli Senior Member Posts: 3,074 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    Mmmmmmmm.... Steak!:tooth:


    :roll2:
  • AiredaleAiredale Banned Posts: 624 Senior Member
    Wambli,
    At the core of every"religion" are people who would further their thoughts with their interpretation of a higher power.
    There is a higher power and I think that He or She inspired Moses to present the Commandments to all people, not just the Israelites.
    Those were nondemoninational, only giving all of us basic rules to govern our lives.
    All of our "religions" are made by men, not God.
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    Airedale wrote: »
    Wambli,
    At the core of every"religion" are people who would further their thoughts with their interpretation of a higher power.
    There is a higher power and I think that He or She inspired Moses to present the Commandments to all people, not just the Israelites.
    Those were nondemoninational, only giving all of us basic rules to govern our lives.
    All of our "religions" are made by men, not God.

    Then why did Jesus (whom Paul said was "our Great God and Savior Jesus Christ", in his letter to Titus), say to Peter and his disciples, "I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. " if Christianity was started by men?
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,352 Senior Member
    Eli wrote: »
    Even though I tend to disagree with about 90% of the political stuff Chris posts........THAT (the part that's bolded) is the stupidest thing I've ever seen posted on this forum.

    Sorry 104RFAST, but I have to agree with Eli. Well, it's probably not the stupidest thing...Gecko45 had some beauties!
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
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