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5th. Circuit court issues a smackdown!

TeachTeach Senior MemberPosts: 18,428 Senior Member
It looks like obummer has stepped in it bigtime with the federal courts. He's been disrespectful to the SCOTUS on several occasions, even during the state of the union address, and now his most recent challenge to the courts' authority has drawn some backlash. For a supposed "constitutional professor", he's shown an incredible ignorance of the document he's sworn to "protect and defend". What a dumb-donkey blunder!
Jerry
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  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    I wonder if we're going to have a show down between the court and the president? So far, the DOJ, in particular Eric Holder, has been uncooperative and even dismissive with congress in regard to fast and furious. Now, it will be interesting to see if they take the same approach with the 5th circuit court judge.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,804 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    He's view of government is simple. He is the king and he does not understand why no one else gets it...

    I think it's much worse than that.

    He keeps demonstrating that he cares not one whit about anything that happened before his ascension to the throne, other than its usefulness to him in the demogoguery that he expects to keep him 'in power.' This guy, whether he is simply a narcissistic megolamaniac or a true soldier for the socialist cause, is more radical than anyone yet seems to understand. He has been telling us and demonstrating to us for three years that he intends to tread on any tradition or statute that gets in the way of his goal to establish a socialist ruling elite in this country, with him at its head. It's been happening, incrementally, for decades, but he believes this is the endgame and that he is the man to put it over the top. If there was any way he could come up with a plan to suspend elections, I have no doubt that he would.

    He is in full community organizer mode, and the community he is organizing consists of those who want to take the fruits of everyone else's labor. He has no problem with race riots, lynchings, or anything else that will create a chaos that only he can solve. Every tinpot dictator for the last hundred years has used these methods, and he has been a student of them for his entire life.
  • pilotpilot New Member Posts: 25 New Member
    It looks like the SCOTUS justices realize that if they don't stand up to him now they will be rendered irrelevant. No more Constitution and no more checks and balances. With the Constitution suspended why should there be any elections?
  • robert38-55robert38-55 Senior Member Posts: 3,621 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    It looks like obummer has stepped in it bigtime with the federal courts. He's been disrespectful to the SCOTUS on several occasions, even during the state of the union address, and now his most recent challenge to the courts' authority has drawn some backlash. For a supposed "constitutional professor", he's shown an incredible ignorance of the document he's sworn to "protect and defend". What a dumb-donkey blunder!
    Jerry

    Thank You Teach, for proving what I have been saying and knowning for the last 4 years about the Donkey Odummy Administration. Hey Teach this document that Odummy is sworn to
    "protect and defend" doesn't mean didly squat to him, never has and never will. I have said this before and I will continue to say this long after Odonkey and his chronies are long gone. Barak Obama, is and has been and always will be the closest president we have had to this point, thats about 2mm away from turning this country into a socialist,nazi,monarch,
    communist state, Obama has to be stopped and stopped now.
    "It is what it is":usa:
  • robert38-55robert38-55 Senior Member Posts: 3,621 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    I think it's much worse than that.

    He keeps demonstrating that he cares not one whit about anything that happened before his ascension to the throne, other than its usefulness to him in the demogoguery that he expects to keep him 'in power.' This guy, whether he is simply a narcissistic megolamaniac or a true soldier for the socialist cause, is more radical than anyone yet seems to understand. He has been telling us and demonstrating to us for three years that he intends to tread on any tradition or statute that gets in the way of his goal to establish a socialist ruling elite in this country, with him at its head. It's been happening, incrementally, for decades, but he believes this is the endgame and that he is the man to put it over the top. If there was any way he could come up with a plan to suspend elections, I have no doubt that he would.

    He is in full community organizer mode, and the community he is organizing consists of those who want to take the fruits of everyone else's labor. He has no problem with race riots, lynchings, or anything else that will create a chaos that only he can solve. Every tinpot dictator for the last hundred years has used these methods, and he has been a student of them for his entire life.

    Thank you bisley for posting what I have been saying and knowing for the last 4yrs under the Odummy Administration. Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't it the 19th-century german philosopher, Friedrich Nietzsche, that said "Out of chaos comes order." This seems to be the basic philosophy of the Obama administration, well to me anyway.
    My point being that according to history there was a lot of world leaders that read Nietzsche's work. His works became closely associated with Adolf Hitler, and I don't know if Hitler ever read Nietzsche's works or not but they certianly used a lot his expressions such as "lords of the earth" in Hitler's Mein Kampf. The Nazis made selective use of Nietzsche's philosophy. Also Mussolini, Charles de Gaulle, Theodore Roosevelt and Richard Nixon read Nietzsche's work with "curious interest."

    Nietzsche had some followers among left-wing Germans in the 1890's, but a lot of Germany conservatives wanted to ban his work as subversive. My point being by the late 19th century Nietzsche's ideas were commonly associated with anarchist movements, and have had influence within them, particularly in France and the United States. I would not be surprized if Obama has read Neitzsche's works and somehow is trying to apply some of Nietzsche's philosophy to our way of life.Most of Nietzsche's quote's is considered to be an atavism:

    at·a·vism
       [at-uh-viz-uhm]
    noun
    1.
    Biology .
    a.
    the reappearance in an individual of characteristics of some remote ancestor that have been absent in intervening generations.

    b.
    an individual embodying such a reversion.

    2.
    reversion to an earlier type; throwback

    Just seems like to me that Obama is a modern day Adolf Hitler. Nietzsche also said that ' Whatever doesnt' kill you will make you stronger." Maybe' but no so in the last 4yrs of Obama's Administration. The problem I have with Nietzsche's quotes is that is not useful information, he is too emotional,as one can create chaso out of order, chaos out of chaos, and order out of order.
    "It is what it is":usa:
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,834 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    For a supposed "constitutional professor", he's shown an incredible ignorance of the document he's sworn to "protect and defend". What a dumb-donkey blunder!
    The worst mistake we can make is to assume that what he is doing is stupid. I have a different take on this. He is the ultimate Machiavellian politician. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing. He is attempting to convince the ignorant masses of this country that the Supreme Court is irrelevant, and that HE alone is the arbiter of fairness. Ovomit has all the characteristics of a wannabe dictator in waiting. He has studied the techniques and tactics of Marxists, Communists and Fabian Socialists, and is quite adept at applying those techniques and tactics. The things he is doing are almost a replication of Adolph Hitler in the years before his total takeover of pre-WW2 Germany. NAZI is a German acronym for National Socialist Party.

    Ma·chi·a·vel·li·an
    adj.
    1. Of or relating to Machiavelli or Machiavellianism.
    2. Suggestive of or characterized by expediency, deceit, and cunning.

    Machiavellian
    adjective: scheming, cynical, shrewd, cunning, designing, intriguing, sly, astute, unscrupulous, wily, opportunist, crafty, artful, amoral, foxy, deceitful, underhand, double-dealing, perfidious the Machiavellian and devious way decisions were made

    All the above adjectives describe our dear leader to a "T"
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • robert38-55robert38-55 Senior Member Posts: 3,621 Senior Member
    Thank You Make_My_Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I totally agree with you Sir, and I might add at the point of sounding redundant you have proved what I have been saying and knowing all along.
    "It is what it is":usa:
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,834 Senior Member
    Thanks Robert...you and Bisley gave me some inspiration for my post, and to reiterate the feelings I have had about this administration and president from even before the 2008 election. We are in very deep trouble if we cannot oust Ovomit and his crew of traitors in November. As I and others have said before, this is one election where all who are inclined to vote Republican...MUST vote for the nominee of the party, regardless of how you feel about your FAVORITE politician. Without total support from Republicans and Libertarians, we are all doomed to be the victims of what comes after the election. It is FOOLHARDY to do otherwise. You don't even have to admit you voted for Romney.....JUST DO IT ANYWAY....to save the country from the disaster of the alternative. Do not count on gaining a majority in the Senate...it might not happen.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Senior Member Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    Well, in about an hour and ten minutes we will find out in a report no less than 3 pages if Obama believes the SCOTUS can in fact strike down mandates that are not constitutional. Tic Toc
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
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    I'm in love with a Glock
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    With his favorite legislation hanging by a thread already, obummer just had to poke a hornet's nest! Whether his words were sly or stupid, he just can't resist making totally inappropriate remarks. Right now, Jay Carney, his latest version of "Bagdhad Bob" is on the hot seat, and he's losing it big time!
    Jerry
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    It looks like obummer has stepped in it bigtime with the federal courts. He's been disrespectful to the SCOTUS on several occasions, even during the state of the union address, and now his most recent challenge to the courts' authority has drawn some backlash. For a supposed "constitutional professor", he's shown an incredible ignorance of the document he's sworn to "protect and defend". What a dumb-donkey blunder!
    Jerry

    But don't you see? That dang Constitution Thingi gets in the way of his most Liberal Agenda!!! Now we can't have that, can we?
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    I think it's much worse than that.

    He keeps demonstrating that he cares not one whit about anything that happened before his ascension to the throne, other than its usefulness to him in the demogoguery that he expects to keep him 'in power.' This guy, whether he is simply a narcissistic megolamaniac or a true soldier for the socialist cause, is more radical than anyone yet seems to understand. He has been telling us and demonstrating to us for three years that he intends to tread on any tradition or statute that gets in the way of his goal to establish a socialist ruling elite in this country, with him at its head. It's been happening, incrementally, for decades, but he believes this is the endgame and that he is the man to put it over the top. If there was any way he could come up with a plan to suspend elections, I have no doubt that he would.

    He is in full community organizer mode, and the community he is organizing consists of those who want to take the fruits of everyone else's labor. He has no problem with race riots, lynchings, or anything else that will create a chaos that only he can solve. Every tinpot dictator for the last hundred years has used these methods, and he has been a student of them for his entire life.

    Well said Bisley, you are right on Bro!!! You and Teach get it like no one else here!!! I'm with you both. Thanks for this post!
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Actually, in fairness to the whole forum, there's a lot of people here that get it. That gives me a warm fuzzy feeling to read all your posts. It gives me back faith in humanity to read this stuff!
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    I find it odd that the President, who is supposed to be a Constitutional lawyer, is ignorant of Article III Section 2 of the Constitution of the United States of America.
    It states in part:

    Section 2.

    "The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;--to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;--to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;--to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;--to controversies between two or more states;--between a state and citizens of another state;--between citizens of different states;--between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects."

    He's being obstinately ignorant of what the Constitution he swore to uphold actually says.
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • blueslide88blueslide88 Member Posts: 273 Member
    I was discussing this same subject just the other day. Obama had just dissed SCOTUS, and when he suggested that a "non-elected" panel of judges had no business ruling against an elected Congress and president, it hit me like a freight train. We had just been through the birth control controversy with the Catholic church.
    It always seemed obvious to me that OB's running up the national debt and adding the hidden costs of OBcare, with no concern whatsoever about our ability to repay it, was a sure way to bring economic chaos to our nation, purposely. For emphasis "PURPOSELY".
    I'm in total agreement with everything in this thread.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,834 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    He's being obstinately ignorant of what the Constitution he swore to uphold actually says.
    Ovomit is talking to the woefully ignorant people of this country who don't know and don't care what it says in the Constitution. It's like when you see those interviews on TV of the "people on the street" where they get asked questions about the government or the Constitution, or even who the Speaker of the House is, and their answer is Duuuhhh...Hunh? I get a sick feeling in my stomach, each and every time.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,834 Senior Member
    It always seemed obvious to me that OB's running up the national debt and adding the hidden costs of OBcare, with no concern whatsoever about our ability to repay it, was a sure way to bring economic chaos to our nation, purposely. For emphasis "PURPOSELY". I'm in total agreement with everything in this thread.
    I have been trying to make this point for 3-1/2 years about Ovomit's evil intentions. It's NOT an accident or stupidity that we are still in this economic condition. Their purpose is to bring us crashing down economically and militarily, then rebuild the nation how they want it with no opposition from ANYONE.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    JerryBobCo wrote: »
    I wonder if we're going to have a show down between the court and the president? So far, the DOJ, in particular Eric Holder, has been uncooperative and even dismissive with congress in regard to fast and furious. Now, it will be interesting to see if they take the same approach with the 5th circuit court judge.

    Well, it looks like Obama and Holder decided to comply. Holder has submitted the letter as demanded, and acknowledged that the Supreme Court does have the power to review laws 'beyond dispute'. Of course, he and DC Jay are saying that the prez didn't really say what he said.

    Here's a pointer to the Fox News article.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/05/obamas-supreme-court-comments-become-political-football-as-justice-preps/
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,834 Senior Member
    These scum are as slippery as greased snakes.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • JeeperJeeper Senior Member Posts: 2,954 Senior Member
    The worst mistake we can make is to assume that what he is doing is stupid. I have a different take on this. He is the ultimate Machiavellian politician. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing. He is attempting to convince the ignorant masses of this country that the Supreme Court is irrelevant, and that HE alone is the arbiter of fairness. Ovomit has all the characteristics of a wannabe dictator in waiting. He has studied the techniques and tactics of Marxists, Communists and Fabian Socialists, and is quite adept at applying those techniques and tactics. The things he is doing are almost a replication of Adolph Hitler in the years before his total takeover of pre-WW2 Germany. NAZI is a German acronym for National Socialist Party.

    Ma·chi·a·vel·li·an
    adj.
    1. Of or relating to Machiavelli or Machiavellianism.
    2. Suggestive of or characterized by expediency, deceit, and cunning.

    Machiavellian
    adjective: scheming, cynical, shrewd, cunning, designing, intriguing, sly, astute, unscrupulous, wily, opportunist, crafty, artful, amoral, foxy, deceitful, underhand, double-dealing, perfidious the Machiavellian and devious way decisions were made

    All the above adjectives describe our dear leader to a "T"

    I have to agree with you on this. He's not totally stupid in the traditional sense.

    Luis
    Wielding the Hammer of Thor first requires you to lift and carry the Hammer of Thor. - Bigslug
  • QuinianQuinian Senior Member Posts: 707 Senior Member
    I said he was Hitler before he was elected! I looked him up and everything I could find was either horrible or inconsitant as if his whole identity was made up. I said he was going to do this but nooooooooooo Quin's just a redneck racist!

    What I think is truly sad is over half the population still doesn't see it and goes right along with everything he says as if it's the greatest thing ever.
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    Quinian wrote: »
    I said he was Hitler before he was elected! I looked him up and everything I could find was either horrible or inconsitant as if his whole identity was made up. I said he was going to do this but nooooooooooo Quin's just a redneck racist!

    What I think is truly sad is over half the population still doesn't see it and goes right along with everything he says as if it's the greatest thing ever.

    Are you saying that Obama is capable of directing and authorizing a Holocaust???? I don't like Obama, and he is not good for this country but your analogy is absolutely wrong, way over the line, and you need to edit your reference to Obama being like Hitler out of your comment, because it is not true.
  • QuinianQuinian Senior Member Posts: 707 Senior Member
    Yes I think he is more than capable of it. He seems to be all about population control. Besides, I never mentioned the Holocaust, you did. I was talking about his totalitarian take over. No, I will NOT edit that out. You gonna jump the other forum members who compaired him to Hitler first?
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    Quinian wrote: »
    Yes I think he is more than capable of it. He seems to be all about population control. Besides, I never mentioned the Holocaust, you did. I was talking about his totalitarian take over. No, I will NOT edit that out. You gonna jump the other forum members who compaired him to Hitler first?

    Yours was the first I read and it does not matter how many have, it is wrong and no where correct. You really believe he is capable of the Holocaust???? You are nuts plain a simple and I hope the mods edit your comments. You have lost your mind or lack one.
  • conchokidconchokid Administrator Posts: 512 Senior Member
    Gentlemen:
    I think we should all take a deep breath and stop making references to Hitler, Nazis and the holocaust. Also it is over the top to say the president is in favor of lynchings and race riots. We all can get very emotional about politics in such a messy and never ending campaign. But it does no good to use language that might encourage someone to do something really stupid. It's a very important topic—POTUS vs. SCOTUS—and is historical in nature. But let's tone it down a bit.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,612 Senior Member
    But, but, but... what am I going to do with all these torches and pitchforks?
    Overkill is underrated.
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    I hope SCOTUS shuts down the mandate and I do not believe for one moment that if SCOTUS does that it will give POTUS the white house again.
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I don't know about that. If he looses it will energize the core of his party that had a nice little handout coming their way and now "the man" took it away. If he wins he proves he was right... The way I look at it it helps him either way at the polls. My hope is that they wait until after the election to issue their decision so it does not influenece the vote at all.

    Well, that is an interesting take and you might be right. If so, I would have to agree that it would be better if they announce it after the election. WOW!!! It is so hard to get a handle on things today when it comes to the political climate.
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    Congress - makes the law
    President - enforces the law
    Court - interprets the law

    Isn't that simple? ;)

    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,834 Senior Member
    Yours was the first I read and it does not matter how many have, it is wrong and no where correct. You really believe he is capable of the Holocaust???? You are nuts plain a simple and I hope the mods edit your comments. You have lost your mind or lack one.
    The only reference to Hitler was the political tactics...no one mentioned holocaust. I don't see what the uproar is about.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
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